Hello on this rainy morning. I just opened the cam, thought it was Belle but then saw the Spot & realized it was T and the nest was being cleaned up of all the lose sticks. T Flew off. Nest is now MT
I must read up & see what you Early Birds have seen and how you are assessing this situation.
At norfolk that year, the resident female eventually came back. Intruder left or was chased out, no one saw, and she then laid another egg , who is Buddy.
they had attacks by a Great horned owl that year and broke an egg or two , protecting the nest.
and then the intruder would fly at the resident female, there would be video in their archives.
I remember that at Norfolk . I watched the whole season.
O.K. Since that the spot is not as big(and could be the light) if you take the spot away, does it look like Lib at all. Just asking. I was looking at the tail.
@bev If it is the same intruder that I got photos of Sunday, then I don't think it can be Lib. You can see in the photos that here was also some dark along the right side of the head, and when He/she flew there where still some white underneath the wings.
Elizabeth was 79. Such poor health for so long...glad her suffering is over. Now if Zha Zha can end hers, as well. So sad to see such beautiful women become such unattractive seniors......almost as if the gift of youthful beauty is punished in the end.
I believe I see a feature that can distinguish between Trudy and Liberty.....on Trudy's back/left shoulder blade area he/she has some white that Liberty doesn't seem to have. I need to put photos up side by side and do a comparison, but this may be another way to tell them apart and show the kind people in OD that this isn't Liberty in the nest.
Yes, very stubborn.......just ask anyone who knows me ;}
That would be great if you could do that Christine. I have no clue how to distinguish Lib from anyone else, never seen him myself except in a few pictures. Having something definite to look for would be great.
When the two eagles were side by side last evening, you could see that Belle's head was much bigger. T seems to have a very slender flat head. I could never see that on Lib.
LOL Lynne! Laurel says (after having two babies) she has abs of steel. She just has a soft outer shell to protect them.
She walks on a tread mill and does sit ups and remains "soft". Can not get rid of tummy, though she is slender. She is 5'11' and a size 10. I think that slender!
Well, if you read the archives of Norfolk, you will see that they have not only the cam, but biologists in the field to assess the IDs of the birds.
from Feb 14, 2008 NBG We are reviewing video footage and images to determine exactly who's who and what all has transpired. It is tempting to leap to conclusions but it's important to realize that no one view of the situation provides a complete picture. While the camera provides an excellent "eyewitness" of events it is a small window into a much larger territory. Norfolk Botanical Garden staff and biologists from DGIF and William & Mary Center for Conservation Biology were on hand at the Garden for a significant portion of the afternoon - assessing the situation and examining the birds from a distance. We will compare images from today with past images to try to detect differences in plumage, hopefully helping us I.D. the birds at the nest.
Morning all. Just got here. Have not caught up, but I did see Mema Jo's comment that Turdy was in the nest doing nestorations. Oh Turdy, what are you doing?
I breezed through the previous page and realize there is still confusion as to who is who. I am still not drawing any conclusions. I don't know how long this will continue, but I am in for the long haul! Someone really cleaned up the nest - looks like a male was around.
Well, the nest certainly looks much neater. Are there pictures of whoever may have been in the nest? I'm assuming there are, since people are trying to make a positive ID . . .
One has to wonder if the eagles can "think" or merely act on instinct. Does Lib "react" to the intruder, but "think" "where are my babies?" Or is this just an "It is what it is" situation to him. So many questions, so few real answers.
sorry, if I am stirring things up. I am just trying to solve things also, and so many did not think this was same intruder, and I am just trying to throw all possibilities out there.
the bottom line is , no tags, no real way of knowing.
FAct: Belle has unfortunately lost Paddy Joy and an egg. this is so sad, and I still tear at the memory, and the rest is all speculation.
Yes, Norfolk, always has biologists on the ground and so they get a look from all aspects.
Maybe some more ground work.
will look forward to posts when I come back. See I say I am gong to be quiet, but not my nature.
GOOD MORNING EVERYONE...ALL GAZILLION OF YOU:) Don't have enough paper to make a Cheat Sheetz!
Note on the spot/spots on intruder's head: It surely has healed some, from when it first happened and secondly, It has been raining and some of the blood has been washed away. Thus, looks like a different eagle.
Note on Belle: She is not being as agressive, perhaps because there are no eggs or chicklets to be protective of.
Good morning everyone. I have come to this conclusion. Every one of us is hallucinating. We see dark feathers, we see battle scars. We see females, we see males. Life is full of smiles. :)
See the feathers in on the back. That is NOT a 5 year old mature adult. It is still molting feathers that will come out and the dark feathers will come in. Would on head is from 1st fight with Belle where the head had two spots. Then the other day when Belle fought intruder in nest the spot on head got darker and bigger to what you see now.
I was at the nest on Saturday. I seen Belle and I seen the intruder female (she when looking with own eyes near the nest she is big and not small like a male). I seen Liberty flying and leading the female away from nest while Belle was in nest with Paddy O'Joy and unhatched egg.
I called Megan and she started posting on here what I was seeing and yes with and without binoculars.
I have, Wanda has, Gene has, Paula has, Megan has, Lori has, don't remember now who else. Has seen this intruder with their "own eyes". Even without using binoculars she is "big"!!!
The 60 year old albatross that we heard about a few weeks ago has been seen alive and well, post-tsunami! Wisdom has returned to a remote atoll NW of the main Hawaiian islands.
The rest of today's nest weather-Widespread showers. Widespread thunderstorms this afternoon. Some thunderstorms may produce damaging winds and large hail this afternoon. Highs around 50. Southeast winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain near 100 percent.
This confusion is terrible. I certainly hope biologists are learning from all this turmoil.
If the intruder is a male, then at least he has not brought any fish. I read in someone's post--at this point I can't begin to remember whose--that bringing fish is a way for a male to bond with a female.
I have a question for those of you who have been on here for a long time--How do you remember what you want to comment on??? As I am reading, I think "I want to comment on that." But then a scroll down and read a couple more messages, and I find something else to comment on . . . Do you write it down? Open a Word document and switch back and forth, adding to it? Aaaaaarrrrggghhhhh!
OH by the way, Momsters points west of me near 70 and 68....I need a REDBUD report!! Anyone seeing anything on the Redbuds yet? It was April 17 last year when they were in full bloom on 68. We want to go see my MIL hopefully when they are blooming.
and I could not keep my promise I did NOT catch up on all the posts but this morning's reports are unbelieveable...so much action... Thank you everyone for the play by plays
Lynne2 is also us notepad to write comments on sometimes. Due to blogger cop not letting comment go on and it erases off of here. Or you get a "conflicting thing" which takes your comment. On notepad I just copy and paste.
Delphia has updated on FB. The biopsy is done, she was told even though there was "structure" that 99% of the time they are benign and she should have results in 5 days.
Lynne2 - at least here in Garrett County MD (up at Deep Creek Lake area) where I am, no signs of redbuds. In fact, not much sign of spring at all up in the higher elevations. We are right off of 219 between McHenry and Oakland.
Trying to catch up, been almost 90 min, decided to make coffee and something to eat.
Megan thanks for the Norkolf info from 08, I haven't looked at cam but (hang me) I went into OD and they were comparing vids trying to place Lib as intruder... I give up with them...
What I noticed and if anyone else did please let me know, the intruder also has that mottled look on his/her upper back there is still some white in the feather and has not turned fully brown yet
Christina I just got to your comment, and yes I just posted the same thing, glad I wasn't the only one who saw it, glad to know my eyes are still good :)
Nene, in case you don't know, there is a new thread for today. Just go the top of the page, click on " Shepherdstown Eagle Cam Daily" and you will see a new thread for Wednesday.
Here is the cam link: http://outdoorchannel.com/Conservation/EagleCam.aspx
mariadangeloart go to the top of this page click on "Shepherdstown Eagle Cam Daily"... There you will see Wednesday. Go to the bottom of that you will see "New theard" On the right you will see a number with comments beside it. Click on that.
Hi, Everyone, Had a devil of a time getting here this a.m.--my IE was not responding. Slept in late, so gotta shower and go pick up Emma from the vet's.
Sissy, praying for you for a successful surgery! Hang in there!
Sharon, I'm with you--got English homework AND transcription homework to stay on task with today. Don't know HOW it will all get done, but gotta try at least!
I was so sorry to hear that Elizabeth Taylor has passed away. She was one of the last, great "Old Hollywood" stars. She will be missed!
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«Oldest ‹Older 1001 – 1136 of 1136Hello on this rainy morning.
I just opened the cam, thought it was Belle but then saw the Spot & realized it was T and the nest was being cleaned up of all the lose
sticks. T Flew off. Nest is now MT
I must read up & see what you Early Birds have seen and how you are assessing this situation.
At norfolk that year, the resident female eventually came back. Intruder left or was chased out, no one saw, and she then laid another egg , who is Buddy.
they had attacks by a Great horned owl that year and broke an egg or two , protecting the nest.
and then the intruder would fly at the resident female,
there would be video in their archives.
I watched it all.
Posting this here too
Norfolk Eagle Archives
Split I did and it is now 1001 & I am here by myself!
Hello Lynne and Bev......
bringing over my comment from other page
I remember that at Norfolk . I watched the whole season.
O.K.
Since that the spot is not as big(and could be the light) if you take the spot away, does it look like Lib at all. Just asking. I was looking at the tail.
Eagle off at 10
@bev If it is the same intruder that I got photos of Sunday, then I don't think it can be Lib. You can see in the photos that here was also some dark along the right side of the head, and when He/she flew there where still some white underneath the wings.
can hear eagle in tree. I think Belle , by sound.
I thought this bird was Lib until I saw the spot. Now I do not know.
Confused BEagle. :(
Elizabeth was 79. Such poor health for so long...glad her suffering is over. Now if Zha Zha can end hers, as well. So sad to see such beautiful women become such unattractive seniors......almost as if the gift of youthful beauty is punished in the end.
Age catches up with all.
Hi Mema Jo,
Scott, I am meaning the eagle this morning. some are not convinced it is the same intruder.
So if there is only one spot, and then look at tail, is there a possibility this is LIb back, with a head wound.
Just throwing that out there
The one jsut on nest, seems to know what it is doing.
I believe I see a feature that can distinguish between Trudy and Liberty.....on Trudy's back/left shoulder blade area he/she has some white that Liberty doesn't seem to have. I need to put photos up side by side and do a comparison, but this may be another way to tell them apart and show the kind people in OD that this isn't Liberty in the nest.
Yes, very stubborn.......just ask anyone who knows me ;}
LOL Lynn! Then I can live a l-o-n-g time!
Good morning!
Please look really hard guys. You know LIb better than me
I have to get ready now, but will keep cam up till I have to go.
@bev Ah gotcha, sorry.
That would be great if you could do that Christine. I have no clue how to distinguish Lib from anyone else, never seen him myself except in a few pictures. Having something definite to look for would be great.
When the two eagles were side by side last evening, you could see that
Belle's head was much bigger. T seems to have a very slender flat head. I could never see that on Lib.
Lynn you have mail.
Christine, yes, I've noticed the whitish areas across the back as well on the intruder.
BEagle -- age and GRAVITY!!!
I checked the video from last night. The spot on her head is bigger and centered.
The eagle on the nest just now must have been Lib. Spot to the left of head is going away.
My whole body is very slender Lolly, but no one EVER sees that either.
Gravity serves it's purpose to keep us from floating off but it sure wreaks havoc on the flab!!!
LOL
I think this was Lib with a head wound.
The wound is healing and is father to left on center than the dark feather of the intruder.
It sure did look like Lib picking up sticks and moving them around. I am guessing it was Lib in the two videos posted this morning.
Well I am off for now, and I do no want to sound like the kooks on other area, but please check carefully.
and remember , in a fight, if there was one, feathers can go missing.
Look at Pa at Sidney, (his neck had the brown ring now, because of some type of injury, and we are not certain as to how he got it.
Yes, when I saw a picture of Pa at Sidney, it looked like his feathers were singed...like he ran into an electric wire.
LOL Lynne! Laurel says (after having two babies) she has abs of steel. She just has a soft outer shell to protect them.
She walks on a tread mill and does sit ups and remains "soft". Can not get rid of tummy, though she is slender. She is 5'11' and a size 10. I think that slender!
Later Bev!
Well, if you read the archives of Norfolk, you will see that they have not only the cam, but biologists in the field to assess the IDs of the birds.
from Feb 14, 2008 NBG
We are reviewing video footage and images to determine exactly who's who and what all has transpired. It is tempting to leap to conclusions but it's important to realize that no one view of the situation provides a complete picture. While the camera provides an excellent "eyewitness" of events it is a small window into a much larger territory. Norfolk Botanical Garden staff and biologists from DGIF and William & Mary Center for Conservation Biology were on hand at the Garden for a significant portion of the afternoon - assessing the situation and examining the birds from a distance. We will compare images from today with past images to try to detect differences in plumage, hopefully helping us I.D. the birds at the nest.
Hallelujah...Lib is back!!
Excuse me, he is not there at the moment.
That was a spurt of exuberance and jubilee.
♥
BBL
Lolly, that seems VERY slender to me!
I personally have "abs of aluminum".
My supermodel body is well protected under the armor of fat cells.
My belly...where all sugar goes to rest.
BEagle...WHERE??
Morning all. Just got here. Have not caught up, but I did see Mema Jo's comment that Turdy was in the nest doing nestorations.
Oh Turdy, what are you doing?
I breezed through the previous page and realize there is still confusion as to who is who. I am still not drawing any conclusions.
I don't know how long this will continue, but I am in for the long haul! Someone really cleaned up the nest - looks like a male was around.
BEagle - you saw him?
Calls
I hear eagle and knocking at cam.
Someone is crying out....but no one in sight!
Yes it had to be Lib, with a head injury or missing feathers low on left side of head.
Bev was trying to identity him also.
Very sadden to hear about Liz Taylor's passing. I thought she was much older - She was a very beautiful women.
I must go check out my emails & take a look at FB & keep my eye on the Sycamore Palace.
That was Lib straightening up the nest.
Somebody is certainly near.
Well, the nest certainly looks much neater.
Are there pictures of whoever may have been in the nest? I'm assuming there are, since people are trying to make a positive ID . . .
I REALLY wish we had a way to post pics on here.
BEagle, in response to your earlier post, I think we are seeing different views of the same intruder.
I see the intruder paid another visit
And yup, the intruder has white inbetween the wings too
There are videos of this morning's nest visits on windows on wildlife forum.
I believe that is Lib and Belle in the 2nd video early this morning.
They may be talking over a second clutch.
: D
That was Lib about 10:30am.
I can not find my link to W on W in my favorites. Can someone please give me a link? Thank you!
One has to wonder if the eagles can "think" or merely act on instinct. Does Lib "react" to the intruder, but "think" "where are my babies?" Or is this just an "It is what it is" situation to him. So many questions, so few real answers.
I am just about ready to leave.
Hancock has a lot of picutres also.
sorry, if I am stirring things up.
I am just trying to solve things also, and so many did not think this was same intruder, and I am just trying to throw all possibilities out there.
the bottom line is , no tags, no real way of knowing.
FAct: Belle has unfortunately lost Paddy Joy and an egg. this is so sad, and I still tear at the memory, and the rest is all speculation.
Yes, Norfolk, always has biologists on the ground and so they get a look from all aspects.
Maybe some more ground work.
will look forward to posts when I come back.
See I say I am gong to be quiet, but not my nature.
HAve a great day all.
Sorry on my phone too much of a pain to link. Just google windows on wildlife
WEATHER ALERT
Some of us could be in for severe weather later today. Keep your eyes to the skies.
Severe weather possible today
If Steve doesn't have to work Saturday we may head to S'town for some groundwork!
Got an email from Someone who drove by the nest at 10:50 said two eagles on the tree above nest. Not sure who
GOOD MORNING EVERYONE...ALL GAZILLION OF YOU:)
Don't have enough paper to make a Cheat Sheetz!
Note on the spot/spots on intruder's head: It surely has healed some, from when it first happened and secondly, It has been raining and some of the blood has been washed away. Thus, looks like a different eagle.
Note on Belle: She is not being as agressive, perhaps because there are no eggs or chicklets to be protective of.
Note on Liberty: No opinion:)
Great, Lynne! How far a drive is it for you?
My apologies. Lib flew off at the 10:30 position.
It was just before 10:00am that Lib was on the nest.
Darn meant they were not sure which two eagles were in the tree. Lynn your link takes me to NBG -
Good morning everyone. I have come to this conclusion. Every one of us is hallucinating. We see dark feathers, we see battle scars. We see females, we see males. Life is full of smiles. :)
I have no doubt that the bird with the black spot on the head IS NOT LIB.
BEagle did you get a picture of Lib?
OOOOOOPSSSSSSS
WEATHER ALERT TRYING AGAIN, USING BRAIN CELLS THIS TIME
Severe Weather Threat for Wednesday
Shaking at the cam tree.
I missed Liberty! My cam was frozen again :(
Trudy again....
Intruder back with a stick
Check out the really really long middle toes on the intruder
Eagle on the nest.
Intruder?
That is not Lib's back
BEagle, that was intruder just before 10am this morning, this bird we are seeing now.
It's not Lib
Okay dokey.
Intruder on the nest.
Lib didn't have toes like that
Wow never noticed that about the toes before Paula.
Doing nestorations.
Who in the world is this on the nest right now?
Off the nest at the 10 spot
Nene, the intruder was on the nest, just left the nest
See the feathers in on the back. That is NOT a 5 year old mature adult. It is still molting feathers that will come out and the dark feathers will come in. Would on head is from 1st fight with Belle where the head had two spots. Then the other day when Belle fought intruder in nest the spot on head got darker and bigger to what you see now.
Would like to drop a net on this birdie and transport her far, far away.
Okay, now she is gone.
Right, Paula...Lib has distinctive toes and that is not Belles toes.
That eagle is too big to be a male.
Unless it was given steroids:)
Paula, you did say that you definately saw Lib when you visited there, didn't you?
I know that you know Lib better than most.
I was at the nest on Saturday. I seen Belle and I seen the intruder female (she when looking with own eyes near the nest she is big and not small like a male). I seen Liberty flying and leading the female away from nest while Belle was in nest with Paddy O'Joy and unhatched egg.
I called Megan and she started posting on here what I was seeing and yes with and without binoculars.
I have, Wanda has, Gene has, Paula has, Megan has, Lori has, don't remember now who else. Has seen this intruder with their "own eyes". Even without using binoculars she is "big"!!!
Good morning everyone. (goodness-1089 posts) There is a lot going on in our eagle world.
Okay. I humbly submit that it was the intruder earlier. :(
I will go take off my rose color glasses. :(
Later.
Sorry, BEagle, we all really want to see Lib in the nest, too.
Lynne2 Link at 10:59 about Weather did not bring up anything?
Does anyone else's eagle cam keep freezing up?
I am crying again.
I want Liberty and Belle the advantage of restoring their nest and to keep moving along.
BEagle, it will happen, I think it's just going to take a little time.
I would give my seat in hell to see Lib in this nest.
Awesome- give me your seat, it's probably got a better view:)
Lynne, your severe weather link shows a total whiteout, that does sound awful
They are talking possible tornadoes in Iowa on the weather channel. I think they were saying Madison County. Is that anywhere near the Decorah nest?
The 60 year old albatross that we heard about a few weeks ago has been seen alive and well, post-tsunami! Wisdom has returned to a remote atoll NW of the main Hawaiian islands.
The rest of today's nest weather-Widespread showers. Widespread thunderstorms this afternoon. Some thunderstorms may produce damaging winds and large hail this afternoon. Highs around 50. Southeast winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain near 100 percent.
LOL Megan!
OK, one more time.....I have no idea what my problem is....
WEATHER, Trying again!
It's raining here.
This confusion is terrible. I certainly hope biologists are learning from all this turmoil.
If the intruder is a male, then at least he has not brought any fish. I read in someone's post--at this point I can't begin to remember whose--that bringing fish is a way for a male to bond with a female.
I have a question for those of you who have been on here for a long time--How do you remember what you want to comment on??? As I am reading, I think "I want to comment on that." But then a scroll down and read a couple more messages, and I find something else to comment on . . . Do you write it down? Open a Word document and switch back and forth, adding to it?
Aaaaaarrrrggghhhhh!
OH by the way, Momsters points west of me near 70 and 68....I need a REDBUD report!! Anyone seeing anything on the Redbuds yet? It was April 17 last year when they were in full bloom on 68. We want to go see my MIL hopefully when they are blooming.
Yes Pam, I have taken notes before!
part of the whole Cheat Sheet thing!
Pam, we just have awesome memories! :) NOT!
Paula, check your email.
The Decorah nest is looking pretty wet.
It's been that way for a couple of days but not very windy.
Lynne2 I have notepad on my bottom tool bar. I bring it up and write stuff on that. It helps me with all the confusion.
I make notes PammySue..
but I don't have enough paper these days !
Good Morning Avid Eagle Watchers !
I guess we should batten down the hatches.
and I could not keep my promise I did NOT catch up on all the posts but this morning's reports are unbelieveable...so much action...
Thank you everyone for the play by plays
SICLMBO=sitting in chair laughing my butt off at Sharon's comment lol ( :
Lynne2 is also us notepad to write comments on sometimes. Due to blogger cop not letting comment go on and it erases off of here. Or you get a "conflicting thing" which takes your comment. On notepad I just copy and paste.
OK, Sharon has grass circles in her yard. I'm afraid she has been "infiltrated" by aliens. I've seen the circles....I'm very afraid of her now.....
Dana, that's a great idea to use Notepad!
Boy I just checked the chicks at BWE. Since I haven't been there in awhile they are getting big.
Somebody at nest just hooked their horn.
Pardon my ignorance but I have a question.... Where do you pull up the cam that you are watching?
When I have a lot to comment on, I open up a whole new window of the blog, and put my comments in there and then post :)
Delphia has updated on FB. The biopsy is done, she was told even though there was "structure" that 99% of the time they are benign and she should have results in 5 days.
hey, that's a good idea too Paula!
NEW THREAD AND SOME INTERESTING FROM STEVE****************************************************************************************************
Lynne2 - at least here in Garrett County MD (up at Deep Creek Lake area) where I am, no signs of redbuds. In fact, not much sign of spring at all up in the higher elevations. We are right off of 219 between McHenry and Oakland.
INTERESTING READING FROM STEVE....
PLEASE READ EVERYONE...NEWBIES, WILL HELP YOU TO UNDERSTAND BETTER!
NEW THREAD*************************
Thanks for the tips on commenting, guys. I agree that these days I do not have enough paper (or time) to keep up the way I would like.
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NEW THREAD!!
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Trying to catch up, been almost 90 min, decided to make coffee and something to eat.
Megan thanks for the Norkolf info from 08, I haven't looked at cam but (hang me) I went into OD and they were comparing vids trying to place Lib as intruder... I give up with them...
Last page to read...
OH, Good moring all
What I noticed and if anyone else did please let me know, the intruder also has that mottled look on his/her upper back there is still some white in the feather and has not turned fully brown yet
Christina I just got to your comment, and yes I just posted the same thing, glad I wasn't the only one who saw it, glad to know my eyes are still good :)
How do you get to the new thread?
Nene, in case you don't know, there is a new thread for today. Just go the top of the page, click on " Shepherdstown Eagle Cam Daily" and you will see a new thread for Wednesday.
Here is the cam link: http://outdoorchannel.com/Conservation/EagleCam.aspx
mariadangeloart go to the top of this page click on "Shepherdstown Eagle Cam Daily"... There you will see Wednesday. Go to the bottom of that you will see "New theard" On the right you will see a number with comments beside it. Click on that.
Hi, Everyone,
Had a devil of a time getting here this a.m.--my IE was not responding. Slept in late, so gotta shower and go pick up Emma from the vet's.
Sissy, praying for you for a successful surgery! Hang in there!
Sharon, I'm with you--got English homework AND transcription homework to stay on task with today. Don't know HOW it will all get done, but gotta try at least!
I was so sorry to hear that Elizabeth Taylor has passed away. She was one of the last, great "Old Hollywood" stars. She will be missed!
Well, gotta run. BBIALW!
Oh--expecting rain to hit us here in SoCal this morning--hope to pick up Emma before it gets here. Later, alligators!
All well that ends well.
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