Okay, finally got to watch the video----couldn't get Paula's to play in full on FB. But here I could. And Lori in Maine did get it all! Saw the Hancock pics....taken at the same time when I was suspecting that it was Lib, but they didn't catch a front view like I saw.
OMG, Paula....you hit that nail on the head! I refuse to read anymore over there because they truly are a bunch of idjots!!!! And no one can tell them ANYTHING!! They think they know it all.
I leave for awhile and miss everything. Seen the post on utube. Belle is just taking back what is her. Trudy doesn't seem aggressive to me. Could this be Belle & Libs offspring. I will finish reading every ones post. I just pleased to see Belle take back what is hers.
Um, I do have a question though about this forum...do you have to be an original member to be acknowledged here? I've been ignored now since I first started coming here.
I was able to watch both of them Hedgie. I am so thankful we have people here that are thoughtful and post for those of us who always seem to miss the good stuff, like me. LOL
Hi, I'm back and supper is over, the pharmacist recommended Mucinex.DM I also bought Mucinex Dumb of me I guess as now I'm not sure which to take...Any suggestions?
WANDA----never thought to ask you.....do you by chance (or your sweet GG) know Eileen Walsh?? Learned that she passed away yesterday. Obit on Brown's website, in paper tomorrow.
BTW I finally got to watch the Mai Video. It looks like she is adjusting well, which must make you happy, even though I know how hard and sad it was for you.
Thanks to all who posted the videos of Belle and the intruder. I have to admit I felt a bit sorry for the young eagle. Belle really gave her a beating. Hope the intruder will go away now. Don't want to see any injury to any eagle.
And welcome Christine. We don't intentionally ignore anyone. Glad you have joined us Genie
Cause of the white on the back. And probably his feathers got pulled out on his head, that's why there is a black spot. Lib has had a few stray feathers here and that, but not that look. I keep repeating that Belle didn't attack Lib, not going to post it again over there.
I was just asking for an opinion on my theory.......I think Trudy's obsession is with POJ. I think she was trying again to unbury him again!! She definitely seem submissive though, like she doesn't want to fight Belle! I'm still wondering if this is a mother who may have also lost an eaglet or something?
Thanks Sharon, I confuse easily especially when I'm probably not getting all the oxygen I should...:) Can't use the ALT's with my laptop - no num lock key???
I think Trudy's obsession is with POJ. I think she was trying again to unbury him again!! She definitely seem submissive though, like she doesn't want to fight Belle! I'm still wondering if this is a mother who may have also lost an eaglet or something. This isn't here trying to take the nest. She wants that baby! Again, this is all just my opinion.
CHRISTINE...I'm sorry you feel ignored. I really, really is not intentional. As Shirly said, there are sooo many new friends on here and so much going on that is not the usual fare for us, that we are having difficulty answering all questions. We love all of our newcomers as well as those that have been here since 1910!:) Be patient with us and you will be ONE OF US OLD TIMERS before long:)
Christine, are you talking about the video link that you posted? That was the same one I posted of Lori's video...thank you for bringing it over here as well.
Christine, sometimes it might seem that way, but when things are as fast and furious as they have been lately, it's hard to remember everything you want to answer. Stick with us - it will get better! Welcome to the Eaglet-Momsters - it would be difficult to find a better or more caring bunch of people anywhere!
Christine, I don't know if she is obsessed with Paddy or was just doing nestorations. Digging in the nest is part of that as well as moving sticks and bringing in fluff.
I've all but called them idiots over at that forum. I got that video there also, I'm sure it's the same one. I can't go over there anymore, they're just making me so mad I'm going to get booted if I say what's on my mind. I shouldn't forget my meds on days like this ;-} (yes, that's a joke)
Been looking at pics & videos. Lori, your pics are great.I think I can see the problem w/the fight videos~~~~earlier, Turdy was digging in the well!!! That is a NO NO & that's why Belle started attacking her. I have really never seen T attack Belle. It's almost as if she wants to move in w/someone to be a family. I think she's too young to have ever had clutch. And if she did, where's her mate?She wouldn'tv need to look for a home. Also noticed person who made other video thinks Turdy is a male!?
Hi all...I am also a newbee to this blog...but have been consumed by the EagleCam and your blogs since last Thursday.
I saw the confrontation between Belle and Trudy tonight, and have to admit...my first impression was one of Belle reprimanding and when not listened to, she got firm and kicked Trudy out. I am not authority but gut says this may be an offspring.
Paula, the way intruder is acting if it was female the fight could get real ugly between both but she/he is acting submissive and that is what has had me so confused past few days. Belle did look a tad larger but could it be the angle of the cam, maybe Belle is larger. I don't know, I'll leave that to the experts
Maybe for the sake of sanity, everyone should stay away from the other forums.
Christine, as far as your theory goes, I mostly defer to Paula. I trust her identification of the intruder's age and sex. My understanding is that Turdy is not old enough to have lost a baby yet. But I do agree that at times she seems very interested in Paddy. Maybe she wants to be a mama, and she is checking on the baby. Who knows. There haven't been cameras in eagle's nests long enough to have the answers.
I also thought maybe Turdy just wanted companionship since she is not aggressive at all----thank God. But she has been seen chasing Lib, so again, who knows.
Pass the meds.. light showers passing by here the last 15 minutes or so. Tonight's nest weather- Rain likely late this evening Lows in the lower 40s. East winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain near 100 percent.
Dermatologist is tomorrow. Found the numbing cream...$40.00!
Soup Kitchen was so much fun this evening. We had the children from the Sunday school (the ones that we had the presentation for) helping. Serving food, asking what the guests would like to drink, clearing off the tables, etc. They were so shy at first, had never done anything like that. Some of them didn't want to serve. Before long, they were arguing over who was going to take the next guest!:) Good life lesson for them. They want to come back!
This was our ST. PATRICKS DINNER IRISH STEW WITH NOODLES CORNED BEEF AND CABBAGE & RED POTATOES... CORNBREAD CAKE WITH SHAMROCKS IN THE ICING:)
Thx, Paula. I thought that it is supposedly so large, it would be female.Of course camera does distort---gotta be there like you guys!! ☺ Gotta take a break--maybe download camera if I can stay awake! And I don't think (is it the OC chat??)I'll go there---my blood pressure might rise!! LOL
Pammy, I agree, the chasing of Liberty doesn't make sense. Trust me, if I have been off line for a while I first look for Paula's postings (and Sharon's) so I know what's really going on :)! She lives close enough to my home town to know there isn't any b*llS**t there either ;)
I have read up to the top of this thread. I watched both Paula's and the other video that was posted at Maine.(that Paula posted) the intruder did look smaller than Belle when they wee side by side.
could this be a male. I am just saying here. that is why it would be submissive and it would explain so many things.
Please don't kill meLOl Look at it again Just glad Belle kidked it out and I was killing mysef reading everyones comments
I really like the Windows on Wildlife and the Hancock forum :) Some of the people posting on there have also been watching this nest for a long time. And they get great screen grabs and videos.
floralgirl, "Pass the meds" - I can see that turning into a running joke on here. I think we all need some. We also need an intervention for our addiction. Craig actually took me by the hand from the computer yesterday and said, "We're going outside." LOL
Costume Lady/Wanda, I loved your story about the kids at the soup kitchen. ♥
Bev, I was also wondering about the difference in size. I know that people said that Turdy looked bigger than Belle, but she did not in that video. Some have said it could be because of camera angle . . .
So, what if Turdy is a young male who is not quite sexually mature, and that is why Belle is fighting her/him and not Lib? Like maybe it is not a threat to Lib yet cause it isn't quite mature . . . Just thinking . . .
I will look at videos again, and again ,I am no expert and sometimes the cams distort things but in the fight the intruder did look smaller.
And if it is a male, Belle would not want him there either. Her mate is Lib. and it would make sense , why the intruder is not fighting. It appears submissive.
And it would make sense that it chased Lib.
I never go to the chats that are on front of cams. They are all loony. With the falcons , they just say the dumbest things and never go to the forums where the correct information is.
Susan has posted on FB that her issues at school have been straightened out, and she can graduate this spring. I could not see how they could just decide that a class she took and passed doesn't count anymore.
She was beginning to wonder if George Mason just wanted to hold onto her for some reason. She is ready to be set free!
Glad that Susan has things going her way for a change. She has been through a lot this past month!
Maybe Belle has finally fought Trudy into submission...that is what fights are for. Maybe Trudy is getting the message and will leave soon.
Grandson, Brandon (who does not claim to be an expert on wildlife behavior) says the only thing that pops into his mind is that the intruder may be an offspring. If their first brood was 2006...wouldn't one be 4 yrs old? Just a thought.
I think she looks smaller because she's down in the cup and she's being submissive with her head down?
Thank you for letting me be a part of this! I'm going to the Carolina Raptor Center this weekend (about 5 miles from here) and see if they've been following and what ideas they have. They have 3 eaglets over there I'd like to see also!
Susan had already bought her cap and gown when she got a message saying that one of the classes she took and passed no longer counts towards graduation. That left her three hours short. Thank goodness, it has been fixed.
I grew up in Fairfield, PA, about 30ish minutes from the nest. I live in Huntersville, NC now, off Huntersville-Concord road! :) If you've been away for a while it has changed a lot!!
DANA...when Gene and I were at the Nest Site and saw Trudy in the tree top...she looked Huge. Have seen both Lib and Belle in the tree branches and don' recall them looking so big.
Yup, Belle's had it with the intruder, whether it's a male or female...she's had a day or two to rejuvenate, eat, soar, and there aren't any chicks in the nest. She would never act that way...as we saw, with a chick in the nest.
I noticed that escalated insistence StrongH. She would peck a little then wait patiently for the intruder to leave. Then she would go a little firmer and wait again.
I know Wanda when I was there on Saturday that is what I seen too. That is why I am trying to let the people know that are just looking at videos or live feed. That those don't show the real size of the intruder...being there on the ground you see the true size of the intruder being bigger than Belle which also means it is a female.
I am sure it has changed. My mother lived on Gilead Road, across from the elementary school. She passed away in 1993, and I have not been back since then.
My parents are buried in the cemetery at the ARP Church there.
Well, my brain is too tired to sort any more of this out tonight. Male, female, juvenile, offspring, all I know for sure is it is an eagle, and it is in the wrong nest! later-
Strong -- They've done a lot of construction in that area. Some of the houses are gone and they've built a Discovery Center there on the corner where the consignment store was. I'll take some pics for you so you can see the changes!
Ok, bedtime, see you tomorrow! Hope Belle is getting some sleep also.
Sharon might have gone to bed Paula, I was trying to use the Alt plus number to do characters, but since I use a laptop without a seperate numberic key and no numlock key either set it won't work. Sharon asked if I had an fn key... I'm hoping she knows how to make it work with that.
Did you all notice in the video how at one point Belle puffed herself up? She looked absolutley HUGE nest to the intruder
Yes Pam made it to the nest and saw three eagles soaring, 2 of them closer together and the other a little further out. Nobody in the tree or nest or any tree around there. Pretty quiet day until the altercation tonight and it made up for the whole day.
I really need to go back to Huntersville soon, Christine. We lived there when I was in first and second grades, then we moved away. My parents moved back when they retired, but my father passed away soon after they bought the house.
It is my family homeplace. I am related to the Hunters and Ransons there.
Well, for heaven's sake, mine aren't blue, but they are in little boxes... let me see☺ YEA!!! it works Thanks a BUNCH!!! Sharon and Shirley, it's been a great day for team work!!!♥♥
I just feel a need to remind us all again that the cam distorts perspectives. Trying to make size comparisons in the nest----especially when zoomed out the way it is----makes for mostly conjectures.
I've been trying to go to bed for the last hour but have been trying to get through all these posts! Sheesh!
WAY TO GO, BELLE! What a fantastic video! Belle opened a whole new can of whoop-ass! I actually felt sorry for Turdy. I think she is mentally ill. (Yea, I know, I MUST be if I'm thinkin' that!!) But what else could be wrong with this female?
I wonder about your theory, Christine. She does seem interested in baby Paddy.
Thanks, fellow eagle lovers, for your comments today. Helped me understand what was going on.
Yeah, Lynn. I accidentally missed the presentation on Monday. I have really been busy, and after everything that went on over the weekend, I was punchy on Monday.
I could not say that I forgot to go because I was stressed over an event in an eagle's nest. So, I have to show up tomorrow before I get in trouble.
Paula or anyone who goes over to the OC forums, could you rescue a poster named "Ruthie" - her compassionate posts tell me she belongs over here not there. I don't know how to do that or I would.
I just feel so behind! Went outside and worked. Then Jack and I sat out by the upper pond and had a glass of wine. Following that we had dinner and then I went and checked email.
I missed all the action. When I finally got to the blog I went from the oldest to the newest, skipping 200 blogs. How did you do that in such a short time? LOL So, I am reading along and thinking "what videos? and what fight?" Man, you snooze you loose around here!☺
Anyway, WOW! Way, to go Belle! Proud of you!!!
We definitely have lots of questions...male, female, why?..etc! I am in agreement though with many, Belle does look bigger in the video.
Some of the comments on the newspaper article are showing up. I posted mine. Here it is(sorry it's a little longer than the others):
I appreciate your coverage of this story. I follow these eagles and I am part of a group called Eaglet Momsters that is devoted to this pair. While some people who do not know any better may think that Liberty is not fulfilling his duty as a male, that is simply not true. In the world of eagles, battles are female/female or male/male. The intruder is believed to be a female, and that is why it is Belle's responsibility to fight. So, the people who love and understand these beautiful creatures know that Liberty is doing exactly what he is supposed to. Since 2006, Liberty has proven to be a wonderful mate and an amazingly tender parent. Female eagles are larger than males and I'm sure that Liberty's instincts tell him that if he challenges the intruder, he will be severely injured or possibly even killed. He knows that he must survive to produce more offspring.
Humans think that, like them, the 'man' must always do the fighting. Trust me, these eagles know what they are doing.
I hope my comment about the article did not come off sounding like I was an expert. I used what I learned from you guys to show that reporter the error of their ways.
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What in the world? That is why I don't go there.
I refused to go there today
Okay, finally got to watch the video----couldn't get Paula's to play in full on FB. But here I could. And Lori in Maine did get it all!
Saw the Hancock pics....taken at the same time when I was suspecting that it was Lib, but they didn't catch a front view like I saw.
Me too- I only peeked there once, and found that update. NCTC/FWS updates seem to go there before we see them here.
Wow, excellent video of Belle "bouncing" Trudy from her establishment, Paula.
That's the kind of action I was hoping to see earlier. Better late than never, and I doubt that Trudy will be back tomorrow again.
She got some serious talon work in the back, but I think it was the attack on the eyes that really made her take Belle seriously.
C(°ٿ°)D Jim
Raining in Martinsburg so it must be raining at the nest
Thanks Paula and Lori for the videos. Of course, I was having computer problems and had to update files so missed it all.
Yeah, Jim, I thought Belle was going for the eye. That could do serious damage.
Paula, I saw Hans' comments also. I don't know why they refuse to believe you and the other people who've known these eagles for so long.
So the question is now, based upon Lori's video, do you think the intruder is a male?
OD is the Outdoor Channel forum.
OMG, Paula....you hit that nail on the head! I refuse to read anymore over there because they truly are a bunch of idjots!!!! And no one can tell them ANYTHING!! They think they know it all.
Yep, Megan....we are the last to get the updates......:(
I leave for awhile and miss everything. Seen the post on utube. Belle is just taking back what is her. Trudy doesn't seem aggressive to me. Could this be Belle & Libs offspring. I will finish reading every ones post. I just pleased to see Belle take back what is hers.
Um, I do have a question though about this forum...do you have to be an original member to be acknowledged here? I've been ignored now since I first started coming here.
Paula, my gut still tells me it's a female.
Carolyn...did you watch the other one from Lori in Maine??? It's longer and shows more!
Ok thanks for that. I'm surprised that they think it's Liberty. Why would she fight with him?
Christine, you do not have to be an original member of the group but sometimes members are responding to others and miss posts.
Christine, I am sure no one is ignoring you. There is just a lot going on and a lot of people on here, many of them new.
You are welcome to blog with us.
I was able to watch both of them Hedgie. I am so thankful we have people here that are thoughtful and post for those of us who always seem to miss the good stuff, like me. LOL
Sorry Christine. You were not ignored intentionally. Did you ask a question that wasn't answered? Everyone is very welcome here.
What's your question, Christine?
Hi, I'm back and supper is over, the pharmacist recommended Mucinex.DM I also bought Mucinex
Dumb of me I guess as now I'm not sure which to take...Any suggestions?
Carolyn I'm also new and i always get my questions answered. They are a great bunch of eagle lovers...
Iris, I would go with the DM for night time.
Cam makes it look like it's lightening....not here!!! We did have a light sprinkle---but heavier rain on it's way. Robyn, is it storming your way??
Wanda, how was soup kitchen? What was the menu? And did you do okay at the dermatologist??
WANDA----never thought to ask you.....do you by chance (or your sweet GG) know Eileen Walsh?? Learned that she passed away yesterday. Obit on Brown's website, in paper tomorrow.
Why do they think it's Liberty? The intruder clearly had the markings on the head.
I think those were headlights just now, Lynn.
BTW I finally got to watch the Mai Video. It looks like she is adjusting well, which must make you happy, even though I know how hard and sad it was for you.
Not raining in Hagerstown.
Thanks to all who posted the videos of Belle and the intruder. I have to admit I felt a bit sorry for the young eagle. Belle really gave her a beating. Hope the intruder will go away now. Don't want to see any injury to any eagle.
And welcome Christine. We don't intentionally ignore anyone. Glad you have joined us
Genie
Cause of the white on the back. And probably his feathers got pulled out on his head, that's why there is a black spot. Lib has had a few stray feathers here and that, but not that look. I keep repeating that Belle didn't attack Lib, not going to post it again over there.
I was just asking for an opinion on my theory.......I think Trudy's obsession is with POJ. I think she was trying again to unbury him again!! She definitely seem submissive though, like she doesn't want to fight Belle! I'm still wondering if this is a mother who may have also lost an eaglet or something?
Thanks Sharon, I confuse easily especially when I'm probably not getting all the oxygen I should...:) Can't use the ALT's with my laptop - no num lock key???
Christine's earlier comment....
Some interesting points.
Blogger christine said...
I think Trudy's obsession is with POJ. I think she was trying again to unbury him again!! She definitely seem submissive though, like she doesn't want to fight Belle! I'm still wondering if this is a mother who may have also lost an eaglet or something. This isn't here trying to take the nest. She wants that baby! Again, this is all just my opinion.
Watch this video that shows the whole encounter!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5IGO4c8Cu0&feature=player_embedded
CHRISTINE...I'm sorry you feel ignored. I really, really is not intentional. As Shirly said, there are sooo many new friends on here and so much going on that is not the usual fare for us, that we are having difficulty answering all questions. We love all of our newcomers as well as those that have been here since 1910!:)
Be patient with us and you will be ONE OF US OLD TIMERS before long:)
Christine, are you talking about the video link that you posted? That was the same one I posted of Lori's video...thank you for bringing it over here as well.
Is anyone gonna go the the OC forums and tell them the truth? That it is clearly Trudy because of the markings on her head?
I think the intruder is definitely a female!
Oh, I see she repeated her comment.
I don't know what might be causing Trudy to act this way.
Christine, sometimes it might seem that way, but when things are as fast and furious as they have been lately, it's hard to remember everything you want to answer. Stick with us - it will get better!
Welcome to the Eaglet-Momsters - it would be difficult to find a better or more caring bunch of people anywhere!
Christine, I don't know if she is obsessed with Paddy or was just doing nestorations. Digging in the nest is part of that as well as moving sticks and bringing in fluff.
Oh, Pammy, I have, I have, about 10 times.
Wait. Didn't someone say the other day that the juvies were bigger until coming into adulthood?
I've all but called them idiots over at that forum. I got that video there also, I'm sure it's the same one. I can't go over there anymore, they're just making me so mad I'm going to get booted if I say what's on my mind.
I shouldn't forget my meds on days like this ;-} (yes, that's a joke)
Wow! Just watched the video! Bout time our Belle stood up for herself! I bet that little witch with a B is hurting tonight! 9
Bedtime for Bonzos my friends! See you bright and early in the morning! Way to go BELLE!! WOOP-WOOP!!
And some people over there are totally lost cause they don't read all the posts...they just post away and don't read.
What kind of meds? Maybe I should get some. I don't get frustrated with people on the blog.
I get frustrated with teenagers.
Been looking at pics & videos. Lori, your pics are great.I think
I can see the problem w/the fight videos~~~~earlier, Turdy was digging in the well!!! That is a NO NO & that's why Belle started attacking her.
I have really never seen T attack Belle. It's almost as if she wants to move in w/someone to be a family. I think she's too young to have ever had clutch. And if she did, where's her mate?She wouldn'tv need to look for a home.
Also noticed person who made other video thinks Turdy is a male!?
Christine, I sometimes feel ignored but there is so much going on at times it is hard to keep up, especially times like this :)
Yes, Lowreeda, the possibility that the intruder is male is there as well. We just don't know for sure.
If I had some good meds, I'd get addresses and share!! I am taking my flexiril tonight so I can finally get some sleep!!
It sounds like there is someone up in the tree above the camera.
Hi all...I am also a newbee to this blog...but have been consumed by the EagleCam and your blogs since last Thursday.
I saw the confrontation between Belle and Trudy tonight, and have to admit...my first impression was one of Belle reprimanding and when not listened to, she got firm and kicked Trudy out. I am not authority but gut says this may be an offspring.
Post a typo and see how quickly you get noticed, Christine. Especially if it is a good one.
Paula, the way intruder is acting if it was female the fight could get real ugly between both but she/he is acting submissive and that is what has had me so confused past few days. Belle did look a tad larger but could it be the angle of the cam, maybe Belle is larger. I don't know, I'll leave that to the experts
When I first saw the intruder a few days ago, I noticed the whole head was covered with big black spots.
This one this evening had only a spot on one side of the head.
That's why I was asking if it were the same bird.
We think this may be a 4-year-old, Jayne, and Belle and Lib do not have an offspring that age.
I think I am right about this.
Maybe for the sake of sanity, everyone should stay away from the other forums.
Christine, as far as your theory goes, I mostly defer to Paula. I trust her identification of the intruder's age and sex.
My understanding is that Turdy is not old enough to have lost a baby yet.
But I do agree that at times she seems very interested in Paddy. Maybe she wants to be a mama, and she is checking on the baby. Who knows. There haven't been cameras in eagle's nests long enough to have the answers.
I also thought maybe Turdy just wanted companionship since she is not aggressive at all----thank God. But she has been seen chasing Lib, so again, who knows.
Pass the meds.. light showers passing by here the last 15 minutes or so. Tonight's nest weather-
Rain likely late this evening Lows in the lower 40s. East winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain near 100 percent.
I believe I did know Eileen...was she a nurse?
Dermatologist is tomorrow.
Found the numbing cream...$40.00!
Soup Kitchen was so much fun this evening. We had the children from the Sunday school (the ones that we had the presentation for) helping. Serving food, asking what the guests would like to drink, clearing off the tables, etc.
They were so shy at first, had never done anything like that. Some of them didn't want to serve. Before long, they were arguing over who was going to take the next guest!:) Good life lesson for them. They want to come back!
This was our ST. PATRICKS DINNER
IRISH STEW WITH NOODLES
CORNED BEEF AND CABBAGE & RED POTATOES...
CORNBREAD
CAKE WITH SHAMROCKS IN THE ICING:)
Do you have an FN key Iris?
Yum Wanda, sounds great.
Thx, Paula. I thought that it is supposedly so large, it would be female.Of course camera does distort---gotta be there like you guys!! ☺
Gotta take a break--maybe download camera if I can stay awake! And I don't think (is it the OC chat??)I'll go there---my blood pressure might rise!! LOL
PAMMY SUE, I agree with you about the othe forums. TOO MANY COOKS ...
I feel like we are in a HUGE Maize and don't know which way to go.
Pammy, I agree, the chasing of Liberty doesn't make sense. Trust me, if I have been off line for a while I first look for Paula's postings (and Sharon's) so I know what's really going on :)! She lives close enough to my home town to know there isn't any b*llS**t there either ;)
I can't feel sorry for homeless Trudy. There would be a good chance we would be watching POJ flourish if it wasn't for her.
Just got home and
I have read up to the top of this thread.
I watched both Paula's and the other video that was posted at Maine.(that Paula posted)
the intruder did look smaller than Belle when they wee side by side.
could this be a male. I am just saying here.
that is why it would be submissive and it would explain so many things.
Please don't kill meLOl
Look at it again
Just glad Belle kidked it out and I was killing mysef reading everyones comments
I really like the Windows on Wildlife and the Hancock forum :) Some of the people posting on there have also been watching this nest for a long time. And they get great screen grabs and videos.
floralgirl, "Pass the meds" - I can see that turning into a running joke on here. I think we all need some. We also need an intervention for our addiction.
Craig actually took me by the hand from the computer yesterday and said, "We're going outside." LOL
Costume Lady/Wanda, I loved your story about the kids at the soup kitchen. ♥
I wish I had time to read other forums. I have my hands full with this one. Haven't even been watching the bears lately.
It rained here in the capital city.
Temperatures are cooling tomorrow with highs and lows are in the 40's, or close to it, the rest of the week.
Is there any room for The Bachelor on here?
Wanda you are so blesssed with what you and Gene are doing - You are touching sooooooo many.
Tomorrow I must watch a video on bloodborne pathogens. I have already been through this training three times. But that does not seem to matter.
I think I am also supposed to get myself a new pair of rubber gloves and maybe even some paper towels. Goody!!
BEagle are you in Charleston?
I am in the middle of my second show.
I have watched the video but will do so again in an hour or so.
Paula I am concerned about the size ot T. Amazed me - reallly was
male size... but by saying that it makes it all the more confusing...
BBILW
I hope that's Belle in her tree!
Well, I guess we have a bachelorette eagle.
Bev, I was also wondering about the difference in size. I know that people said that Turdy looked bigger than Belle, but she did not in that video.
Some have said it could be because of camera angle . . .
So, what if Turdy is a young male who is not quite sexually mature, and that is why Belle is fighting her/him and not Lib? Like maybe it is not a threat to Lib yet cause it isn't quite mature . . .
Just thinking . . .
now I am finished reading,.
I will look at videos again, and again ,I am no expert and sometimes the cams distort things but in the fight the intruder did look smaller.
And if it is a male, Belle would not want him there either. Her mate is Lib. and it would make sense , why the intruder is not fighting. It appears submissive.
And it would make sense that it chased Lib.
I never go to the chats that are on front of cams. They are all loony.
With the falcons , they just say the dumbest things and never go to the forums where the correct information is.
I am sure that was the same intruder.
Robyn, I don't think the experts know!
Yes, Hancock and WOW are great forums, I agree.
The other issue on the size, is that Belle was really puffed up tonight, she really looked big. Trudy looked big sitting on Lib's branch.
Susan has posted on FB that her issues at school have been straightened out, and she can graduate this spring. I could not see how they could just decide that a class she took and passed doesn't count anymore.
She was beginning to wonder if George Mason just wanted to hold onto her for some reason. She is ready to be set free!
When TJ gets back to me, or here, we need to let him watch Lori's video, since she got more than I did and see what he says.
BEagle, are you talking about the tv show?
If you are asking for votes, then mine would be a HUGE NO. Reality tv makes me crazy.
I thought that it was interesting that Belle escalated the fight when Trudy did not get the message at first.
I am a member of the Hancock forum but usually just watch Sidney there.
Have met many friends there and have visited the Sidney nest and went there for fledge.
Poor hubby is waiting to be fed. I will be back
I am still chuckling about reading about the fight as you were all watchng it. I did not miss a thing by not being here. LOL
I think Belle is stronger now, and has had enough
Paula, good point about Belle being puffed up.
Shirley, Shepherd University pulls that kind of crap all the time. It's like they want to keep you there forever.
Well, this interference cost the life of her chick. Belle has every reason to be enraged.
Paula wouldn't you agree when at the nest you can see much better. Than on the live feed or video's that the intruder is definately bigger than Belle and is a female.
Glad that Susan has things going her way for a change. She has been through a lot this past month!
Maybe Belle has finally fought Trudy into submission...that is what fights are for. Maybe Trudy is getting the message and will leave soon.
Grandson, Brandon (who does not claim to be an expert on wildlife behavior) says the only thing that pops into his mind is that the intruder may be an offspring.
If their first brood was 2006...wouldn't one be 4 yrs old? Just a thought.
I find it hard to accept that intruder is male. If so, Lib would have fought to protect his nest, Belle, POJ, etc.
I think she looks smaller because she's down in the cup and she's being submissive with her head down?
Thank you for letting me be a part of this! I'm going to the Carolina Raptor Center this weekend (about 5 miles from here) and see if they've been following and what ideas they have. They have 3 eaglets over there I'd like to see also!
Nite all!
Shirley Has it has been said several times on different thread we've had. 2007 all eggs lost no hatches for our nest.
Susan had already bought her cap and gown when she got a message saying that one of the classes she took and passed no longer counts towards graduation. That left her three hours short. Thank goodness, it has been fixed.
So, where are you from, Christine? I am a native of Huntersville.
Oh Christine, you lucky dog. Would love to go to CRC
Yes Sharon, I have a function key - do I press it and Alt at the same time and then the number?
When I saw Scott picutres the intruder definitely looked bigger than Belle.
I am just throwing it out there .
but I will be quiet now
I grew up in Fairfield, PA, about 30ish minutes from the nest. I live in Huntersville, NC now, off Huntersville-Concord road! :) If you've been away for a while it has changed a lot!!
Oh, I so wanted to go to CRC this weekend or next for their photos workshops but too busy....next time for sure
DANA...when Gene and I were at the Nest Site and saw Trudy in the tree top...she looked Huge. Have seen both Lib and Belle in the tree branches and don' recall them looking so big.
Yup, Belle's had it with the intruder, whether it's a male or female...she's had a day or two to rejuvenate, eat, soar, and there aren't any chicks in the nest. She would never act that way...as we saw, with a chick in the nest.
1st hatched March 18, 2006 Bigboy would be this year fully white head and tail 5 years old.
2nd hatched March 21, 2006 MsInBetween same would have fully white head and full white tail 5 years old this March 21, 2011.
3rd hatched March 23, 2006 Spunky same would have fully white head and full white tail this March 23, 2011 would be 5 years old.
The 2007 eggs survived BAD SNOW STORM---WE HAD NOT HATCHES THAT YEAR. Which we make the intruder not fully white head and not fully white tail as we are seein.
Hopefully we will get answers soon. I wonder how many expert biologists have been contacted over this nest?
I noticed that escalated insistence StrongH. She would peck a little then wait patiently for the intruder to leave. Then she would go a little firmer and wait again.
Quite a few times she did that.
Shirley, glad Susan got it all straightened out!
C'mon down Paula. Go to a race and the CRC!! :) I work at a wind tunnel near the track.
That's what I wanted to ask...Sharon and Iris what are ya'll talking about with the fn key?
I know Wanda when I was there on Saturday that is what I seen too. That is why I am trying to let the people know that are just looking at videos or live feed. That those don't show the real size of the intruder...being there on the ground you see the true size of the intruder being bigger than Belle which also means it is a female.
I am sure it has changed. My mother lived on Gilead Road, across from the elementary school. She passed away in 1993, and I have not been back since then.
My parents are buried in the cemetery at the ARP Church there.
No race tracks for me, but I would definitely do CRC...love Savannah and Derek and their whole set up there....would love to see it.
Scott, did Lori talk to you about those too? She wants to go to one.
Hey Scott, check out the video links I posted at 7:51 and 8:18, Belle kicked Trudy out of the nest. Big fight!
Yes Iris, that will work.
Savannah is beautiful! I'll see if I can get close, they may have that area closed off because of the babies. If I can, I'll get some pictures.
To use her number keys on her keyboard. No cap lock.
Christine, I am 10 min from Fairfield.
Thanks, Paula. It would have been very disappointing if she had not gotten that diploma this spring.
Have I told anybody that I am going to see Bob Seger on April 23 in Greensboro? And yes, I said Bob Seger and not Train.
Well, my brain is too tired to sort any more of this out tonight. Male, female, juvenile, offspring, all I know for sure is it is an eagle, and it is in the wrong nest! later-
OMG....just caught up on over 100 posts, found new thread and there are over 500 more.....
Saw Shirley's video on FB. Maybe someone can email me with a synopsis of today's events? I just can't stay awake to read them all, and then some.
Will you take a train to the Bob Seger concert? really, I had to ask...gbye:)
She doesn't have a num lock?
Or, no keypad....
Wanda, what a great volunteer effort w/the kids at soup kitchen.
You and Capt.Father Gene are angels! ☺
Shirley, so glad to hear about Susan's graduation. That's just horrible if they would discount a course!!
I think the fight was the climax of today's events, Lynne, but I was at work today, so I have not seen everything.
Ya'll are cracking me up!
and did Pam make it to the nest....
No but neither do I on my laptop. Have to press the FN key and the blue numbers on my keyboard.
I want to go see the Doobie Brothers...
Strong -- They've done a lot of construction in that area. Some of the houses are gone and they've built a Discovery Center there on the corner where the consignment store was. I'll take some pics for you so you can see the changes!
Ok, bedtime, see you tomorrow! Hope Belle is getting some sleep also.
Good one, Megan:)
I think they would have had a complaint, Loretta.
Susan has worked very hard for this.
I gotta find something to eat...bbs
Sharon might have gone to bed Paula, I was trying to use the Alt plus number to do characters, but since I use a laptop without a seperate numberic key and no numlock key either set it won't work. Sharon asked if I had an fn key... I'm hoping she knows how to make it work with that.
Did you all notice in the video how at one point Belle puffed herself up? She looked absolutley HUGE nest to the intruder
Yes Pam made it to the nest and saw three eagles soaring, 2 of them closer together and the other a little further out. Nobody in the tree or nest or any tree around there. Pretty quiet day until the altercation tonight and it made up for the whole day.
OK Shirley, thanks....maybe someone else will let us both know!
Great video by the way! Nice to see Belle kick some butt!
Going to take shower, will try to come back and start catching up.....so busy at work today we never had a chance to bring the cam up.
Thanks, Christine. As far as I know, her house is still there. It shows up on Google street view.
Iris, if you hit the Alt and FN and then the blue numbers on your keyboard, not the numbers across the top, it should work.
Three eagles. Well, at least we know 2 are Lib and Belle....if there were only 2 we wouldn't know for sure....
Thanks Sharon
I am hearing something near the cam.
LOL...are the Doobie brothers still alive? LOL
I like them too.
Yes, Wanda, she was a nurse. She was the "chief" at GM when I went to work there. She retired in '89 and then I was the chief!
Yes, the Doobie Brothers are still alive. I liked them better with Michael McDonald, who by the way is going to be at Wolftrap sometime in the summer.
I really need to go back to Huntersville soon, Christine. We lived there when I was in first and second grades, then we moved away. My parents moved back when they retired, but my father passed away soon after they bought the house.
It is my family homeplace. I am related to the Hunters and Ransons there.
Or, I should say, until I was in second grade.
Yep, Michael McDonald rocks!
Well, Sharon, Paula, I don't have any blue numbers on my laptop either...only the ones across the top...guess i'm skunked. Thanks for the help though.
Is the video by Patriot's Girl the 2nd video you all watched?
You got me looking for blue numbers on my keyboard, too. Oh, there are blue numbers. Hmmm. Look again, Iris. Number one is on the "J" key.
Iris, my letter "L" has a blue 3 on it, "K" has a blue 2, etc. Your's don't?
LOL, Shirley!!!! BBP is a definite PIA!!!! I always hated it....like it doesn't change and I'm not a dummy!!! Just another stooooopid law.
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Well, how about that!!
Iris, on my laptop I have a 1 on the J kep, 2 on the K key, 3 on the L key. Did you look there?
Well, for heaven's sake, mine aren't blue, but they are in little boxes... let me see☺ YEA!!! it works Thanks a BUNCH!!!
Sharon and Shirley, it's been a great day for team work!!!♥♥
I just feel a need to remind us all again that the cam distorts perspectives. Trying to make size comparisons in the nest----especially when zoomed out the way it is----makes for mostly conjectures.
Oops, Lolly too!♥
Yay, I love it when stuff works out! ♥ and ☺!!!!
I've been trying to go to bed for the last hour but have been trying to get through all these posts! Sheesh!
WAY TO GO, BELLE! What a fantastic video! Belle opened a whole new can of whoop-ass! I actually felt sorry for Turdy. I think she is mentally ill. (Yea, I know, I MUST be if I'm thinkin' that!!) But what else could be wrong with this female?
I wonder about your theory, Christine. She does seem interested in baby Paddy.
Thanks, fellow eagle lovers, for your comments today. Helped me understand what was going on.
Way to go, Shirley!You can learn something new every day!
WOW! Worked late, came home, watched video - talk about kicking butt!!!
Belle had it up to here!! This is MY nest, and you are outta here!!!
Those karate kicks to the back were something else!!! That was just amazing!
Yeah, Lynn. I accidentally missed the presentation on Monday. I have really been busy, and after everything that went on over the weekend, I was punchy on Monday.
I could not say that I forgot to go because I was stressed over an event in an eagle's nest. So, I have to show up tomorrow before I get in trouble.
Oh, question: what do you mean when you say "split?"
Me too Sharon ♥♥♥!
Does that mucinexDM make you sleepy?
Kathi, each page of the thread only holds 200 comments, so at 201 it does a split to another page.
It does me Iris but a lot of stuff makes me sleepy.
Ahh, THANKS, Sharon!
'Night all. Pleasant dreams. Hope I can sleep now that I got all pumped up over Belle's kicks!
At least we know our Belle is ok!
We will split to another page at 600. We have been doing a lot of splits recently.
They said the Doobies are going to be somewhere around Baltimore this summer...
Paula or anyone who goes over to the OC forums, could you rescue a poster named "Ruthie" - her compassionate posts tell me she belongs over here not there. I don't know how to do that or I would.
I just feel so behind! Went outside and worked. Then Jack and I sat out by the upper pond and had a glass of wine. Following that we had dinner and then I went and checked email.
I missed all the action. When I finally got to the blog I went from the oldest to the newest, skipping 200 blogs. How did you do that in such a short time? LOL So, I am reading along and thinking "what videos? and what fight?" Man, you snooze you loose around here!☺
Anyway, WOW! Way, to go Belle! Proud of you!!!
We definitely have lots of questions...male, female, why?..etc! I am in agreement though with many, Belle does look bigger in the video.
Oh dear. I was corrected on my weather report posted earlier. It will be warmer tomorrow then cool down on Thursday.
Dingbatosis.
And not only that I just dropped my cookie in a cup of coffee :(
Good night. I am hittin hay.
Prayers for all of you.
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No, Wanda, a 2006 offspring would be 5----and isn't that full maturity?
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Gotta practice this.
Correction on the cookie. I just found it in my shoe.
Whoa. Dinbat-really-tosis.
I just sent the infamous wax story out through Eaglet Momsters. I hope Pam gets that mail.
Some of the comments on the newspaper article are showing up. I posted mine. Here it is(sorry it's a little longer than the others):
I appreciate your coverage of this story. I follow these eagles and I am part of a group called Eaglet Momsters that is devoted to this pair. While some people who do not know any better may think that Liberty is not fulfilling his duty as a male, that is simply not true. In the world of eagles, battles are female/female or male/male. The intruder is believed to be a female, and that is why it is Belle's responsibility to fight. So, the people who love and understand these beautiful creatures know that Liberty is doing exactly what he is supposed to. Since 2006, Liberty has proven to be a wonderful mate and an amazingly tender parent.
Female eagles are larger than males and I'm sure that Liberty's instincts tell him that if he challenges the intruder, he will be severely injured or possibly even killed. He knows that he must survive to produce more offspring.
Humans think that, like them, the 'man' must always do the fighting. Trust me, these eagles know what they are doing.
Hedgie-Lynn I put a comment at 9:59pm this thread about the ages.
KB - those were Karate kicks, weren't they ☺
Hedgie-Lynn I put a comment at 9:59pm this thread about the ages.
That cookie is a goner.
sounds like someone near cam
Pam, that was great!!!! Do you Eaglet Momsters mail?
Thanks, PammySue. Sounds very good to me.
LOL BEagle....too funny!
How did Paula's post get in between Dana's double post?
Uh Oh, Shirley! Have we created a monster?☺♥
I hope my comment about the article did not come off sounding like I was an expert. I used what I learned from you guys to show that reporter the error of their ways.
You hit the nail on the head.
Isn't technology amazing, BEagle. They must have posted at the same time or nearly so.
Yes, Paula, I just sat watching her in that video with my mouth hanging open. She was awesome!!
I'm still hearing some noise - someone in the tree?
Great comment Pam...gotta see that article still
What thread is Ruthie posting in?
Probably, Paula! But I haven't mastered it yet.
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Yes, Sharon, I get Momster mail. I think Lynn sent me the story on Facebook too, but I haven't had time to read it.
Glad you guys approve of my comment.
Raining at nest
I mean, probably, Lolly.
It is getting late for me.
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