Tuesday, June 10, 2008

Tuesday

The heat wave continues thread.

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glo said...

Good Morning all..Have a good day. Today could be Tiny Littley's big day...actually it could be any minute now.

Eagle-Eyed Sharon said...

Thanks Steve. Did you know the RP is down again?

Eagle-Eyed Sharon said...

I was thinking that too, Glo! How are you this morning?

glo said...

well Sharon I slept well for about 6 hours. Can't get back to sleep now so thought I would BLOG and see whats going on at the nest. LOts of calls and kind messages yesterday. I am grateful for a new day. I work tonight. I think I will take Dexter to work with me.

Eagle-Eyed Sharon said...

Lovely pic we have right now. Can still see a blob at 6 o'clock, well kind of!

Eagle-Eyed Sharon said...

Good morning, Normabyrd!

glo said...

Well actually thanks for the info mine had stuck at 6 58 and holding so actually glad to see any kind of info on what is happening.

glo said...

OK and my computer doesn't show any Normabyrd either oh gosh another blonde moment or more Hmmm

NatureNut said...

Hi all--leaving for work--
NO cameras!!!!! BOO HOO

normabyrd said...

GOOD MORNING EAGLE BUDDIES!!---I just typed my 'good morning' paragraph on the last blog!!-----Goes something like this. . ."HEAT WARNINGS in the EASTERN PANHANDLE TODAY"---Highs in 90s, ANOTHER HOT ONE!---temp. is 66° here in WV---"HOME OF BELLE & LIBERTY---PLUS 3"-----I am guessing that (TINY--LITTLEY--#3) might wait until Sat. --FLAG DAY----SPUNKY FLEDGED on that date????-----REMEMBER PRAYERS FOR CHRISSY & FRANK & SGT. MCCOY!!----prayers every day for our military!!!!-----LIFE IS GOOD & "LIVE" IS GOOD!!----Thanks Steve!!

normabyrd said...

CONGRATS! GLO---Our #1 EAGLE MOM today & every day!!---MORNING--GLO--MAGPIE---SHARON---& NATURENUT!!---

normabyrd said...

very funny GLO!

glo said...

((((((hugs)))))) Norma

ceil said...

Good morning. Bummer. Cam acting up. Will be a busy day today. So keep me posted. Thanks.

Eagle-Eyed Sharon said...

I think I still see someone in the nest at 6 o'clock.

glo said...

The Blonde was me Norma not you, but I did find you, and I knew you would be finding us too. Almost copied your post to bring it over but thought I would wait a few minutes and see if you would chase us down. Life is good cause here you are

normabyrd said...

Just read HELEN has introduced M&M to the EAGLES!!---WAY TO GO MITS!!!

Costume Lady said...

GOOD MORNING EVERYONE...
Glo, you had some sort of premanition about NORMA...what was that all about?

Costume Lady said...

OK, I see, you saw her post on last thread. Thought you were becoming Psychic. Or is that Psycho? LOL

Costume Lady said...

I can just picture sweet little Maggie kissing that picture. My daughter loved to carry around my picture and gave it many kisses. I had to put it in a plastic sleeve to keep it from deteriorating.

normabyrd said...

MORNIN' BEAUTIFUL CEIL!!---Bet you all enjoyed your day with M&M!!!---
They are adorable little gals---aren't they?---

normabyrd said...

MORNIN' WANDA!----I think it's both!!!----ho!

MITS said...

GOOD TUESDAY A.M. EVERYONE off to get coffee, be right back.

MITS said...

83° here, last day of the heat wave, tomorrow wind out of the North:)

normabyrd said...

PEREGRINE FALCONS in PA---The 4 CHICKS were huddled by the orange post!!----One went down to the end of the ledge close to the hatch box!---When pic returned---he wasn't there----could be behind the box!!----I HOPE SO!---They seem to be hungry!! --calling out!

glo said...

LOL Wanda It was Sharon who had the premonition.

Thats my story and I'm sticking to it.

Off for coffee and dog treats. Maybe I can see an eagle when I get back.

normabyrd said...

MORNIN' HELEN!!---Truly enjoyed meeting your sisters!---I laughed so hard---my stomach hurt-- when I was hearing all your food stories!!----

MITS said...

and which food stories were they telling you about??????

Eagle-Eyed Sharon said...

Didn't you all know - I have ESPN! :)

normabyrd said...

The 'LITTLE PRINCE' has been roaming over his estate!!----EATING GRASS!----I have seen him doing that before!----What would we do without you TAI!!---You are one COOL LITTLE IMP!!!

normabyrd said...

someone dropped the big bird once?

Eagle-Eyed Sharon said...

What big bird, Normabyrd?

MITS said...

beautiful eagle at KENT

Eagle-Eyed Sharon said...

All three children in the nest.

MITS said...

WEATHER FOR NCTC NEST
Today
Mostly sunny this morning...then mostly cloudy with numerous showers and thunderstorms this afternoon. Some thunderstorms may produce large hail and damaging winds this afternoon. Hot and humid with highs in the mid 90s. Southwest winds around 5 mph...increasing to 10 to 15 mph this afternoon. Chance of rain 60 percent. Heat index values up to 105.
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Tonight
Mostly cloudy with scattered showers and thunderstorms in the evening...then partly cloudy after midnight. Some thunderstorms may produce large hail and damaging winds in the evening. Lows in the mid 60s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.
Wednesday
Sunny. Highs in the mid 80s. North winds 5 to 10 mph.

MITS said...

OOOPPPSSSS......AMEN:)

Costume Lady said...

I ADMIT IT, I AM THE ONE WITH BLONDE ROOTS...After reading back, I see it WAS Sharon who has psycho and ESPN abilities. LOL

Costume Lady said...

Helen, after reading your weather report, I had to laugh at the thought of PEARL seeing hail. She will probably eat it. She eats everything in sight.

normabyrd said...

Am I seeing things?---just saw 3 EAGLETS in nest!---my RP is acting up----BAD!

Eagle-Eyed Sharon said...

Normabyrd, is your RP working?

normabyrd said...

No!----I am seeing it on the still pic---which just went rainbow!!

MITS said...

lol.......yes, she would, Wanda, that is one bird that definitely does not eat "like a bird"

MITS said...

loos like we have a hatching at the WW bluebird nest

normabyrd said...

Still pic 6/10---8:35 a.m.--3 eaglets in nest!----what do I have goofed up?

MITS said...

that was looks....

Eagle-Eyed Sharon said...

Normabyrd, I think you said RP instead of still pic. Thought yours was working and mine was not! There are still 3 in the nest now.

normabyrd said...

Sorry Sharon----NO RP---time just hit 9:00 a.m.---Do you think that is a true pic & that 3 are in nest?

Eagle-Eyed Sharon said...

Yes, Normabyrd. I think we have 3 in the nest.

deb said...

Good morning, everyone. Bright sunny day here. Don't go, Tiny, until we get live feed!

normabyrd said...

BLUEFIELD SHARON---still is goofed up too!!----now reads -6/10--8:35 a.m.----

normabyrd said...

GOOD MORNIN' DEB!!----It is bright & sunny here too---but temp is up to 77° movin' on to 90s---HEAT ADVISERY FOR EASTERN PANHANDLE--(nest is there & i live in eastern panhandle too)

MITS said...

BTW Norma, forgot to tell you, the flamingos are nesting.....

Eagle-Eyed Sharon said...

Just see 2 now and not sure which 2.

Eagle-Eyed Sharon said...

Might see a hint of one right under the camera.

MITS said...

the otters are playing in the water

Eagle-Eyed Sharon said...

I think I see the white spot on Baby Littley's head just below the camera.

normabyrd said...

GERMAN MOMMA STORK is in nest with her 2 little ones!----They are getting taller by the min.---NEWS--Explains how the storks will whiten their legs---with their droppings---to protect them from over heating!----(interesting?)

MITS said...

Gee Norma, thought we all did that:):):)

MITS said...

the Conn osprey are getting huge....

normabyrd said...

Thanks HELEN---I haven't checked them for awhile!!!

normabyrd said...

No HELEN!!---We darken our legs!!!----ho!

MITS said...

oh, that's right, Norma;)

Mema Jo said...

Good Morning My Best Buddies !
I have my cup of coffee and no plans to go anywhere today in the heat.
You all are having a ball on the blog this morning... I am so enjoying all your comments! I love to laugh over the things you say!

normabyrd said...

I see 2 EAGLETS now & one is 'little poop'----How do you like that name?----

MITS said...

bluebird chick in view.....at WW

Eagle-Eyed Sharon said...

"Little Poop" is good, Norma.

normabyrd said...

HEY DANA!---The DONKEYS ARE CALLING YOUR NAME!!----ho!

Anne-Marie said...

Good Morning all, I will read after I get to work. running late, yes Norma eggs are boiling. Hot and windy today. Winds from Oregon coming this way. My apricots will all be on the ground by the time I get home. Hugs to all

MITS said...

maybe we can call it little #$&%, in honor of Megan's new name

Eagle-Eyed Sharon said...

Speaking of donkeys -- one time Andrew played a donkey in a Christmas play at church. Mattie was probably 3 at the time and called him Bud then. She announced to the whole church - "Bud's going to be a jackass". We all laughed until we cried!

MITS said...

WHAT A HEARTLESS JERK THIS GUY IS!!!!!
MANTOLOKING, N.J. — Authorities say a surgeon chased down a gaggle of geese with his boat and killed a gosling with a rake in Ocean County.

The New Jersey State Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals officers arrested Michael Coyle at his Mantoloking summer home Saturday.

Witnesses told police the orthopedic surgeon was driving his boat in a lagoon off Barnegat Bay trying to run down geese. Witnesses then said Coyle docked the boat and went after the fowl with a rake, killing a gosling.

The 62-year-old from Princeton could be ordered to perform community service or sent to jail if convicted of needlessly killing an animal.

MITS said...

ROFLMBO, SHARON.....

Eagle-Eyed Sharon said...

I think the right punishment for that man is to beat him within an inch of his life with a rake!

normabyrd said...

MORNIN' ANNE!---Are your curlers out of your hair?---Don't forget the EGGS!!----I have bought eggs the past few weeks---I thought your boiled eggs sounded so good!-----I had forgotten how good they are!!! -- now I will be healthy too!!---ENJOY!

normabyrd said...

WHOA!!----Does MEGAN have a new name?----She is such a caring generous person!!---

MITS said...

I agree, Sharon, maybe we can get Vicky after him, she has that nice new hiking stick!!!!

normabyrd said...

1 left in nest?

Carolina Girl Sandy said...

Tiny is "up and about"

Costume Lady said...

Vicky hasn't told us if she had anymore trouble with her car or what kind of mileage she got on the Eagle Stick.

Costume Lady said...

AML...I will trade you Snow Peas for Apricots. Love them.

paula eagleholic said...

Morning, all.

Tiny at the back of the nest!

Eagle-Eyed Sharon said...

At the launch pad. We need live feed so bad!

paula eagleholic said...

Oh no, fuzzy pic can't make out a thing!!

paula eagleholic said...

Whew....still there...but looks like she could go any moment!

normabyrd said...

Yesterday I asked VICKY if she had showed her husband her BIG STICK!!-----Told her she could kill a bear with it---but don't try!!!---That must be PAUL BUNYON'S WALKING STICK!!----Are you old enough to remember!!

Eagle-Eyed's Sissy said...

She is teasing us again this morning.

MITS said...

YES, NORMA, WE ALL REMEMBER HIM:):):)

MITS said...

GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Carolina Girl Sandy said...

Morning all!

Will this be the day????

MITS said...

GOD SPEED TINY:)

deb said...

I think Tiny is under the cam??

Eagle-Eyed Sharon said...

Mits, I don't show gone. I still see her standing under the camera.

Carolina Girl Sandy said...

you sure? Looks like someone is right under the cam....on the little bit of picture I have....

Let me look again

MITS said...

CAN'T SEE HER...:(

MITS said...

NOW I DO, I THINK

Mema Jo said...

What time is showing on cam for you all......

MITS said...

AT 10:07, I didn't see anything,

MITS said...

got her:):):)

MITS said...

well slap me silly!!!!!

deb said...

I just switched to 10:12:13 and have a clear picture again.

MITS said...

my cam is 11 mins behind real time...going to get more coffee

Carolina Girl Sandy said...

clear pic. definitely under the camera.

Mema Jo said...

Cam's pic cleared...
I have 10:12:35 and 1 under the cam

paula eagleholic said...

Way under the cam now...

Eagle-Eyed's Sissy said...

I swear, we are going to all be nuts by the time she fledges. Wish the RP would work. ARGH!

Eagle-Eyed Sharon said...

Is anybody else sick of hitting the play button on the RP?

Mema Jo said...

OK 11 mins behind real time -thanks Mits

So I don't have a frozen pic

normabyrd said...

MORNIN' PAULA!!---I think she might wait until 6/14--flag day! You think??

Carolina Girl Sandy said...

lovely rainbow :(

MITS said...

well, I understand perfectly why the cam does not work if it is run by COMCAST:(

Red said...

Wanda, Vicky says she got 24.5 mpg with the stick and the tempature never went over 217 degrees. Thanks to mswvblonde for some pictures from Saturday. Waiting on others.

Mema Jo said...

Steve had emailed me in response to the message I sent last evening letting him know what time it went down & said "The guys have to go out to the tree to evaluate. The whole thing went down. Could be the heat."

I am assuming that means their closed circuit also.

MITS said...

well closed circuit was having issues on Sunday afternoon

Mema Jo said...

This is going to be a very long day

Eagle-Eyed's Sissy said...

Well, it don't sound like we are going to have RP anytime soon, does it Jo?

normabyrd said...

MORNIN' CAROLINA SANDY!---I have been watching the still pic since 8:15 or so this a.m.----She wants to DRIVE US NUTS!!--- the 'little poop'!!!----

normabyrd said...

HUGE WATERSPOUT in FL on CNN!!

Mema Jo said...

I don't think so Sissy
Got any more pics you want to add to the album?

Eagle-Eyed Sharon said...

Mantling now?

Carolina Girl Sandy said...

and doing a swell job of it, huh? Normabyrd.

at least the rainbow went away for now long enought to see that the little poop is still there..

Mema Jo said...

Well there is some movement in the nest from Tiny

Mema Jo said...

ARGH!!!!!!!!!! I guess that
Little Poop is still there

Yep! Right in the middle of the nest

Eagle-Eyed Sharon said...

Mema Jo, we have lots more pics!

Mema Jo said...

Little Poop is hoping back & forth

Always lands at the launch pad area

Mema Jo said...

Well bad thing is we can't see when the Head Bobbing starts and the wings spread out.... Guess the only sign we may get is a poop shoot to lighten the load....... lol

This is soooooooo frustrating!!!!!!

paula eagleholic said...

Poor baby looks hot...maybe she'll wait till tomorrow when it's cooler

Lolly said...

Good morning all!!! Been peeking in. See you have given Tiny a new name. Ha! He deserves it!

Been checking out the Finland cams. Have not seen an osprey on the Finland nest on the water. Think we can about give up on that nest. Wonder what happened there? Finney's nest....Momma frequently has her head down in the nest. ????

Hope all of you have a great day. I would love to just sit here, but after three weeks of doing nothing, I have to get up and about.

Prayers for Chrissy and hubby!!!!

glo said...

RP is trying

deb said...

Mine is up!

paula eagleholic said...



RP is back on - YAYAYAYAY!!

glo said...

Eagle eye sissy How will we be able to tell when we are all nuts?

indiana nesting eagles dave said...

Good Morning everyone;
Well i don't know where to start,
as you have seen on the news that
Indiana had some bad floods and i
was right in the middle of it.I
had water all around me and in my
basement.I will post photos later
I am doing ok just a little stressed out but ok.I haven't been
able to check on the eagles and i
hope they are ok.I will be back
here to work tomarrow and post
photos.

Just a little wet

Indiana Nesting Eagles----Dave

MITS said...

Dave, I'm soooo sorry you were in the middle of it, take care.

Lolly said...

Yuck! Dave.....so sorry! Will be thinking of you!

Eagle-Eyed Sharon said...

WHOOOHOOO, YEAH RAH! COMING AND GOING BUT BETTER THAN NOTHING AT ALL! Maybe the thingy needs water put in it?

deb said...

I feel for you, Dave, take care! I hope you have some dry weather for a while.

Lolly said...

Well, we have live feed....sorta, if you want to call it that!

Carolina Girl Sandy said...

more like live blur most of the time.

Dave, so sorry you were caught up in that weather. Will be thinking of you.

normabyrd said...

MORNING INDIANA DAVE!!---I'm so sorry you were caught in the storm!!!---Did it hurt your house ---other than the basement?---Hope you have friends or family that can help you clean up!!!----That's worse than a BUMMER!!!---Hope it will dry out soon!---Take Care!!--Thoughts are with you!!---MEGAN lost lots of flowers---she had a big wash out too!!!

Mema Jo said...

Dave - Water clean up is not my most favorite thing to do. Hope you have some help and that the flooding has receded. Won't say I am as anxious to see the basement pics as I am your eagle pics!

normabyrd said...

Do you suppose (TINY--LITTLEY--#3) is playing with the cam----so we can't see what she is doing?----She is a CLEVER one!!

Mema Jo said...

Don't want to jinx things BUT
Thank you NCTC crew

Mema Jo said...

Moving around on the launch pad...

My heart is jumping! Can't take this much longer - I do need to eat today

Carolina Girl Sandy said...

wow......yes thank you NCTC, whatever you did!!

deb said...

At the launch pad

deb said...

Back to the corner.

normabyrd said...

CNN is showing WISCONSIN flooding & ALL CAN see the houses break in middle & fall into the lake!!----CNN people asking--all kind of questions--how do you feel, etc.---NO CLASS!!

deb said...

I think Tiny knows life is good in the nest!

Costume Lady said...

DAVE, you may want to check with your insurance company. Sometimes they will pay someone to clean up water damage and yuck. So sorry this happened to you.

Mema Jo said...

You can do it!

Costume Lady said...

RED, thanks for the report on Vicky. Was that 217° in her car or on her Eagle Stick?

deb said...

I have always thought reporters ask the dumbest questions in a disaster, what do they think the people will say?

Mema Jo said...

I think I agree with you Deb.
I saw those wings go but headed in the wrong direction.

Mema Jo said...

Little Poop is still there but really hiding under cam

deb said...

Just barely sticking out under the cam!

deb said...

I have got to go and mow, no wind and no rain. BBL

Mema Jo said...

Come Out
Come Out
Wherever you are

normabyrd said...

WIND is blowing so hard in SCOTLAND NEST----The little one is lying down & trying to get his face into the nest!!---MOM is attempting to weather the storm!!----

paula eagleholic said...

Parent in nest..mantling...parent gone...Tiny eating fish :):)

Red said...

Wanda, 217 degrees was car. No report on the stick yet except it is beautifu.

Eagle-Eyed Sharon said...

Good drop. Maybe they know she is not ready yet. Definitely not trying to starve that youngun out of the nest.

normabyrd said...

DEB---You hit it on the nail head!!----I THINK #3 LOVES BEING THE ONLY CHICK IN THE NEST!!!---LIFE IS GOOD FOR HER!!---She teased us all day Sat.---thinking each wing flutter would be it----
(little actress)----

Carolina Girl Sandy said...

I haven't seen any food today. Has there been any?

up and moving again. across to nest to 12 0'clock back to launch pad.

and the cam goes nutz!

Mema Jo said...

With the food drop - there won't be a flight going out of the nest today, I don't think.
Maybe Belle & Lib are too busy with the fishing lessons for Pearl & Middy!

Carol_in_WV said...

Good morning eagle lovers! It sounds like the trip to the nest on Saturday was a real success, especially because all of our eagle family attended. We have had a lot going on here at work since May 12th - but as of yesterday - things have really quieted down - several on vacation and the rest are travelling. Only me & 1 other person here today. So, maybe I can get on here more now. The camera keeps getting fuzzy for me - how about for you guys? I do hope I can see Tiny fledge! I never got around to telling you guys that about 2 weeks ago, I discovered that 2 American kestrels had nested under the eve of my roof and there were chicks in the nest. The kids in that nest had started getting really noisy - that's how I "discovered" them. This morning when I took the dog out - three young kestrels wer in a pine tree not far from the nest. They are really beautiful birds (especially the adult males). Their eyes are stunning. From what I read, the youngsters hang aroung the nest for a week or two after fledging.

Eagle-Eyed Sharon said...

Was more food just brought in?

Mema Jo said...

I think so, Sharon
Although I didn't see it
Tiny is eating something that wasn't there earlier

Maybe a sibling dropped in from the limb above lol

deb said...

I am half way done with the back yard, came to check and see Tiny is eating. The little eaglet is enjoying the good life!

Eagle-Eyed Sharon said...

I saw a parent there in between the camera messing up and Baby Littley was mantling a little bit.

deb said...

Larry is on the loon cam!

deb said...

I should say, I assume it is Larry. He is waving at the cam.

deb said...

Duck down, Larry, we can't see your face!

Carol_in_WV said...

Yeah, Deb - Tiny is probably enjoying having the house and the dinner table to herself.
I changed my picture to a kestrel in honor of my new family.

deb said...

And there he goes. He was holing something from the nest in his hand.

deb said...

They are very pretty birds, Carol!

Eagle-Eyed Sharon said...

Girlfriend ain't never gonna want to leave that nest!

Carolina Girl Sandy said...

Can't say as I blame her on that one! I wish I had a nest I could hide out in and be alone sometimes....:~)

deb said...

Larry is back and showing more nest stuff. He must have seen that his face wasn't in the cam.

Mema Jo said...

Hi Carol! Enjoy those Kestrels - they really are beautiful birds.
Sat was the greatest & now everyone
is looking forward to Oct 18th.

Check out some of the 1st fledge videos if you have time under Glo - Deb & Paula.....

deb said...

That was a quick Larry visit. I will load the clip after I mow.

Mema Jo said...

Pearl & Middy must not be near the nest or they would have dropped in for lunch!

Costume Lady said...

I'll give you 3 guesses who that is.

Eagle-Eyed Sharon said...

Lib and I would venture to say Pearl are in a tug of war over the food. Pearl won that round but Lib is still there.

normabyrd said...

HI CAROL!!---I was sorry you couldn't join us Saturday---It was a hot one---but when you were watching the EAGLES & EAGLETS---didn't notice!!---WANDA & CAPT. saved us---They took the RV & FED US TOO!!----Wasn't that COOL!!---We saw a RED WING BLACKBIRD!---I told the others you have lots of those up your way!!----I LOVE THE KESTRELS!----They are just TOO BEAUTIFUL!!---Weren't you lucky!---
I have been saying all along--#3 LOVES being the only child in the nest!!---She enjoys eating by herself--keep in touch---we have missed you!!!!

paula eagleholic said...

yup, that's our Pearl...never miss a meal eaglet.

normabyrd said...

CNN had a clip on the WOLONG RESERVE---Shows PANDAS everywhere--!!---Points out that it will take years to discover the impact of this earthquake on the PANDAS!----Imagine they will replay it a few times!!!

MITS said...

TEMP HERE IS 102°

MITS said...

BUT THE HEAT INDEX IS 118°

Mema Jo said...


Video of Loons and Bloons

Carol_in_WV said...

Norma - I missed being there on Saturday too. Momster get-togethers are always fun. I'm gonna try to make it in October. I guess I'll have to start a savings account now for the gas for that trip! How's the weather down your way? It's 84 up here on this mountain, but it doesn't feel too bad, as there is a breeze and the humidity is only 45%, according to weather.com. We don't have A/C in the office - but I don't mind, because I don't have A/C at home and it's always cooler up here.

Mema Jo said...

Anne Marie emailed me & I can't get the OR site up - Can some of you try?

can you check on the Oregon nest for me?. Its suppose to be snowing again which is really unusual and I cant reach it from work. Its all over the news of this freak spring.

Carolina Girl Sandy said...

guess lunch is over. Pearl left and tiny is almost completely out of view under the cam.. Poor baby, looking for some shade.

deb said...

Eagle in the nest with snow in OR.

deb said...

Eagle is gone, snow still there!

Mema Jo said...

Thanks Deb for checking out OR

MITS said...

DIDN'T SEE EAGLE BUT SEE THE SNOW IN OREGON

MITS said...

SPLIT COMING SOON!!!!

MITS said...

Loved the Loonie video, Jo

Mema Jo said...

Can see Tiny better now. Sure is
panting in that heat.

Mema Jo said...

SPLIT

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