New thread.
I have gotten inquiries from folks about getting more info on what's going on and also requests that the NCTC do something to assist the birds.
I need to repeat that we all understand that this episode is unsettling to everyone, but it is one of the risks of having the cam in place--you get to see the wonderful things and the not so wonderful as well.
Wild nature is not always a happy place...the best thing to do is not to interfere in any way.
FWS biologists have been aware of this episode since it began and I suspect there will be more information put out tomorrow on the official cam website.
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«Oldest ‹Older 1201 – 1400 of 1439 Newer› Newest»Trudy in messing with egg cup. COME ON BELLE. Yep.....chasing her away, but she's not leaving nest.
Get her Belle....
She's just sitting up at 11 edge....Belle vocal but not attacking.
Trudy in nest by herself
Bite her tail, Belle!
OMG! Get her Belle!
C'mon, Belle. Get her outta there!
hussy is in nest
Belle just came down from above.
This is not good
Belle has to make her move if she wants her gone
Get her out Belle
Trudy WILL NOT leave and is tearing up the nest it seems!!! GGGRRR!!!
Trudy in nest 12o'clcok postion with Belle in nest screaming!!
A video for you
Remembering our Paddy O'Joy
I have comment moderation on. Please leave your comments. When I get back from shopping I will post them on the NCTC Eagles Of Shepherdstown Blog I started 6 years ago. Paddy belongs there and I have made a place for her.
A little flutter of activity but not really......now pushing her out!!!!! Way to go, Belle!!!!
Belle is protecting her fish .
I'm concerned that Belle let Trudy be on the nest that long without attacking her . . .
Looked like Trudy was moving sticks around. Darn bird. Come on Belle, tell her who's boss once and for all!
That was close! They fought a bit but then Trudy flew out! I was SCARED!
As we can see, I'm not teaching today. My daughter is sick still. I'm sure my school kiddos are so upset!
Belle just chased Trudy out of the nest.
Me too Pam. I thought that was pretty odd.
Good to see you chiming in, Bob Quinn! We have a new Bob, too---he made his name Bob in Frederick so as no confusion! Appreciate your insight and support.
And if I could make one more request if a new thread comes out today, given especiallly all the new bloggers, would you bring the info over to new thread or help them find the link to this video as well. Thanks.
I'd like to see Liberty and Belle in the nest today. That's what I'm hoping for.
For a second I thought it might have been Liberty since she seemed to be tolerating it's presence.
I wish there was an eagle behaviorist or someone out there who could explain things to us!! Why is the other eagle jumping in and working on the nest like that? I believe everyone when they say this isn't Liberty so what the heck is going on????
I have watched raptors for years and I am baffled with this.
I made a long comment earlier and it did not come up .
I will rewrite if I have time
We don't know how long this battle is going to last. Other eagle cam watchers have never seen anything like it either....this bird just doesn't get it.
There may have to be more physical contact with the intruder to make her go away.
I think they will continue to defend the nest as long as there is an egg in the nest.
Lib and Belle remain in the area year round.
Hold on to your seats !!!
It's Belle
bev. we call that the "blogger cop". Sometimes long comments will get a message saying that it can't post and if you hit the refresh button, it WILL post anyway, and sometimes posts just DISAPPEAR. Not sure why!
Maybe Belle was being cautious in the nest because of the egg and chick.
Paula, thank you for your response, I appreciate it. I really hope Belle and Liberty are able to drive her off soon
Belle is covering cup contents with flugg......guess she thinks that will keep the witch form disturbing the remains. Guess we can consider it her version of a burial. RIP Paddy O'Joy and egglet.
She's really digging now. Looks like she's covering everything up. Maybe Trudy will leave once the nest is "emtpy"? Stupid hormonal Trudy!
Now, that to me is a burial
What a Mom!
And now Belle is covering up the egg and POJ with fluff
WE DID ANOTHER S P L I T
New people need to give first names; so we can make a "cheat sheet". Thank you ( :
awwww...Goodbye Paddy O'Joy
My name is Maria
Belle has to assert herself if she wants TRudy gone
Belle is covering egg and the spirit of Paddy
I read everything this morning before posting.
MOst of us who are new here, have the feeling your group does . I followed this nest off and on since 2007 but really followed last year and then jsut came on board again.
I am trying to stay away form cams this year, as it does not take me long to get hooked.
wvgal_dana, my name is Heather. :)
Wow, so amazing that she seems to be "burying" the egg and POJ.
Such a bittersweet sight to see. Hopefully this act will help protect the nest. ~~~ Jennifer in Morgantown
First name is Susan and hubby is John (I know he signed up separately in the Momsters yahoo group, but I don't think he's done anything separate in the blog)
DANA Would it help if the new comers would email their name, email address & City or State they are in.
Name would only need to be first name
and then their user name on the blog.
Thanks for doing the cheat sheet.
You could go to E_M New Members for some of the information above.
**New members you are not obliged to give any info you wish to keep private
Belle very still on the nest...can tell she is looking around, but the rest of her is very still.
Thanks Lynne2 .
I guess I get long winded at times.(from being a teacher)
My real name is BEV. I never hide my name. did not know when I started on forums that I was supposed to. Just went in full tilt in 2005.
I started with Kimmarie at the buffalo friends of falcons.
If Paddy and the egg stay covered, I will be able to watch again.
Come on in Sharon.
Okay, I am hopeless! I cannot NOT watch! Have to bring my laptop back in here at my desk. Can't stand it!
my comment that did not publish was about Norfolk a few years ago.
The female went away for a bi t, if you remember. one egg was smashed but she left the others.I believe she left to get stronger , to chase the intruder off.
and obviously she was successful. She came back to give birth to wonderful buddy , who I support financially.
I'm not so new as I've been here since Hidey, but for the cheat sheet and those who don't know, FuzzleMA is Irene - Fuzzle is my 16 yr old beloved cat's name -
I wonder if Belle covering the remains and the egg means she realizes, or accepts now, the fate of her clutch. And if so, will she now be more aggressive at fighting off Trudy? I just wondered if she was "holding back" just a bit to avoid risk of injury while she had a viable clutch and was just using minimal techniques to deal with the intruder.
Glo............what can I say???? I left my comments. Bless you.
Did I jsut see some fluttering out of the corner of my eye
I am not sure what you talking about. a cheat sheet.
Bev, we have learned to copy our long messages...just in case!
I have to go and get cleaned up now. For some reason when i have this cam up I cannot put up any others.
I will leave this up and keep checking back
Don't mean to upset anyone, but I was just wondering, if for some reason Belle abandons the nest and the intruder moves in, does Liberty go with Belle or does he stay with the nest and take up with the intruder? Never saw anything like this happen before.
As I said on last page, I will work on a new cheat sheet.
Lynne, could very well be. Most intruders leave after being chased away a couple of times.
Bev, some of us when we first started on the blog made a cheat sheet...notes...about who was who, an other info we wanted to remember. It was never anything formal that everyone had a copy of, just each person doing there own.
I hope Trudy just goes!!!
I'm not sure how that plays out Maria. Welcome to the blog!
mariadangeloart I am happy to say the We have never seen this action before. It is a first for us and quite
a learning experience.
Hedgie, thank you so much...take your time...we still have a bit of drama going on with Belle and that HUSSY!!!
Thank you Lynne! Pleasure to be around such caring and knowledgeable people.
Jo Maybe so if they are going to have our information. Hedgie-Lynn how much infomation on us is going on the "cheat sheet"?
Guess that kind of makes us all "Newbies!" :)
I should know that also. Some forums only allow so many characters.
now I will go wash the face
Good morning everyone! Just checking in and see Trudy is still around and that Belle has covered our darling baby and the egg. I am at work and can only be here for a few minutes at at time but will be checking in throughout the day.
Who do I email my info to?
I posted earlier( Must have deleted it accidently) To recap, the loss I felt yesterday when POJ didn't survive. I am still crying. I feel like your blog is a family and with family you get support. I feel for Belle trying to defend her nest. I have been watching since Heidi. But I feel the need to connect this time!
I think it's not just the nest, but the whole territory an intruder is after. Eagles tend to stay in the same territory even though they may build other nests to use within it because of food availability, etc. and a good territory is very valuable. I think, but am not sure, if Belle leaves, Lib will go with her. IF something fatal happened to Belle...then I think that Lib may stay with the new female. THis is all just guessing, I'm not sure.
Bev, I will make up a lsit of blog names with a bit of identifying info if I have it.....makes it easier for people to keep track of who's who!!! Especially the newbies who don't know who we are when we call people by their first names.
JO---it's ME whose going to do it.....and, yes, if folks want to be contacted, and receive the cheat sheet through momsteer mail, they need to be on there!!
Hi signgirl, thanks for joining us on the blog!
From what I have witnessed , Belle will not give up this nest without a fight. She has too much vested in it.
LIb will stay with the winner. This is usually, but we have seen many strange things over the years.
I personally do not think Lib or Belle will leave right now until they have this straightened out.
Now I am gone
This is really hard.
Glo - beautiful video and perfect song. Sure am glad I'm working from home so no one is seeing me bawl! (fyi - this is 'spucciano' - changed my blog alias
I think it would be good to have at least a first name if it's different from the blog name, and location. Anything more that you want to provide is fine.
Jo can post the info about signing up for Momster mail.
WOW fast posters, was all caught up on my phone made my coffee and had several more to read when I got back to my office.
Nice to know Belle covered O'Joy and the egg up. I see Belle has food, and the intruder is getting brazen I read. Perhaps she thought intimiidation would chase Belle off and now realized it wasn't working? I hope Belle stands her ground, if she had her talons out in flight yesterday she was looking to either intimidate or do some damage to the intruder perhaps.
I read some articles on other eagles who had to deal with intruders, not pretty so I hope everyone is prepared for what can happen, I trust Belle will prevail but it can get ugly, just a FYI. If you couldn't watch earlier I suggest you turn off completely.
The Tampa eagles was one story...
I am Harbingerdc and real name is Janet. I've been here and on the Yahoo group since 2006, mostly lurking. I'm from Baltimore.
Contact email
Click on Hedgie's Name
There you will see on the left
Email---
Hedgie it is going to go to Yahoo Address
I tried the link posted yesterday to the momster mail thing but it did not work.
Now I am gone
Hi all,
Just wanted to say how sorry I was about your chick. Hopefully Belle will soon be able to drive away the intruder for good.
Hang in there,
Lisa at Blackwater
Hey there T-Bird! As hard as it gets.
SusanP, you threw me for a loop! Are you changing from spucciano???
thank you so much Lisa!
Which eagle is in the nest now? Is that still trudy? Where are the egg and Joy's body?
I hear something. I think it is the children at the daycare.
Thank you, Lisa. It has been a very traumatic few days, full of twists and turns never expected. So glad to see your osprey have returned!! And your eaglets are growing beautifully!!!
Thank you Lisa :)
Shirley, it's Belle. She covered up POJ and the egg.
Thanks, Lynn. I had to go to the library with my students.
Doesn't look like NCTC updates very often. Are we expecting one today? Does anyone here have contact with them? Are we expecting basically what we already know?
I have watched falcons fight for territory. Not because I really wanted to but because the biologists asked me to keep track .
It is not pretty and I end up a wreck every time.
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My favorite Falcon in Edmonton was defeated at her nest site and I was in tears the whole time but she survived.
The next year she came back and tried again and lost. but she has taken up at another site in Edmonton which I also keep track of. I felt the transmitter hindered her and I felt it also brought her hom e1 month later than other falcons.
the biologists listened and took the transmitter off this year so we will see if she comes back on time.
there is a long story here but I will spare you.
She is standing in Lib's fav spot.
Belle is off at 12 ans I will really go now LOL
Thanks Lisa from Blackwater you too have had lose at your nest so you know what we are feeling. Thank you for dropping in HUGS.
Blackwater has two sites where you can see eagles and ospry. One site is BWE=eagles no sound refreshes but Lisa really keeps you up to date:http://www.friendsofblackwater.org/camhtm2.html
The osprey site at Blackwater no sound refreshes is
http://www.friendsofblackwater.org/camhtm.html
Hey all...I was wondering if the fact that Belle buried PJ and egglet, plus the fact that she is fighting Trudy so hard for the nest a sign that she may in fact lay another clutch?
Hedgie - sorry for the confusion! I figured using SusanP would make it clearer in the long run (and I just didn't know how to change the default when I first set it up :-)) So yes, that is what i'll use going forward.
Just heard from the doctor's office. Don't have to be at the hospital on Friday until 8:30. Boy, I hate that! Makes for a long day. If I have to have anything done, I like to be first on the list!!!!
I leave and try to catch up on fb and come back here and realize I missed a lot of drama. Wow!
Really interesting that she buried the egg and POJ.
Scott, we really have no idea, but IMHO I do not think there will be another clutch. They are going too busy just defending the nest.
I hear possible Belle in the tree.
someone just landed up top and trilled x2
One of ours I think, by trill
Too early to tell Scott
Great News Bev aka Sissy - I will still keep you in prayer until it is all over.
Nest MT - but sure heard a Clunk
@Lolly...yea, I should have added "given Trudy gets outta Dodge" :)
Robyn, thanks for the Tampa reference. I found the story. Very interesting. Regardless of the drama and sadness, I am facinated by all of it. My aunt works for the National Park Service in Idaho and we are meeting them in Alaska this summer for a family wedding. We will have some things to discuss!
FYI - Paula will be the one to contact NCTC for us. She will post
information as it becomes available.
I have been checking for the update, but nothing yet
MicheleB - I think we bloggers probably know more than what NCTC knows as we have been on the scene since this has all started.
I can't watch the cam. I couldn't stand it if something happened to Belle now. I am keeping up with everyones observations. I pray Belle will be victorious protecting her
territory. My name is Teresia. From St. Albans, WV.
Michele, ALaska how nice. My folks are going to sailing back to Alaska for a 2 week cruise, they too one a few years ago and fell in love with the state...
That's what I was guessing too.
signgirl - I used to live in St. Albans :D I moved in 1987 when I was 12.
Lynn, really do appreciate you constructing the cheat sheet.
Jo, I sent an email to the address you sent me. Have not checked yet to see if I heard back. Jack is on that computer.
Several people have asked if we have an official commentator from NCTC. No, we do not have that on here. However, we do have Paula and several others on here who are very knowledgeable and who have watched the cam for many years.
Yes, we do have contact with NCTC by email. However, we leave that to just a few, as we do not want to bombard them.
I hope that answers a few questions that I have read.
Found on OD forum...
All -
It has been quite a long weekend. Here is a summary of an update which will go live on our Web page shortly:
Over the weekend we were able to confirm multiple sightings of the male eagle who is a part of the established breeding pair. He appears to be uninjured and in good health. We were also able to confirm the presence of a third eagle near the nest, and we are almost certain it is a breeding age female. The eaglet, as many of you know, has died.
We have biologists on staff at NCTC who have offered their assessments of the situation. It is generally agreed that if the new female is successful in taking over the nest, she will then need to recruit a male to join her. If she does find a mate, it is likely too late in the nesting season to lay, incubate, and hatch any new eggs.
Nest competition is common in areas with healthy eagle populations. The fact that we are seeing nest competition at NCTC means the population of eagles in the area has likely increased in recent years.
Teresa from St. Albans - my son lives in Scott Depot, I am from Bluefield and live in Bedford VA now.
Sissy, sorry...I know how frustrating that is. Bad enough to be NPO, but then to have to wait and wait always gives me a headache!
I am leaving now to eat some breakfast and walk.
Will be lurking....and hey, not so many blogs, please. Geeeeesh...it is so hard to catch up. LOL
Thank you Paula, perhaps a pair will eventually make their way near me and build a nest...
nest still empty but have been away from computer
Thanks Paula, for the up date.
Thanks, Paula. Wonder why it wasn't posted on their own page before on OC?
I refreshed the OD cam and found the update. Nothing has been posted on the NCTC official Nest Updates.
Thanks Paula for the OD report you put in here.
Now that is the way to do it for newcomers like
signgirl did gave her name and where she is from. Like some others have done. ty
Lynn, it probably takes longer to update the NCTC website...they don't do that there at NCTC is my understanding...you know, it's probably got to go through certain channels.
Nice to see that I have close neighbors on the blog. I used to live in St. Albans and then Nitro, now live in Poca.
Poca Dots!
Well, just so ya know, I am Beverly (aka Sissy) and I live in Bluefield, WV.
And I am Sharon's sister.
That is me Sharon. A true Poca Dot and people really think I am making that up when I say taht.
Or whomever, Jo. Not sure if it's Denver or not.
I was in Poca at a band competition last year. My son goes to WVSU in Institute.
I sent an email to Steve asking that the cam be returned to the normal, unzoomed view. I know Outdoor has requested that as well.
My name - self explanatory.
Another clunk
Sharon, when you went to the high school for the band festival you drove right by my house. I live on the main road between Nitro and Poca. If you come back this way to see your son, let me know and maybe we can meet for lunch.
That would be great Carolyn. Are you on Facebook?
Yes I am on facebook c.s.hager@comcast.net
Nest is still MT
Here is an article that includes a video of the release of the injured eagle in MD
Eagle Release
They pulled back the cam...
Cam was just zoomed out...thank you NCTC
Just zoomed the cam back out. Just as well.
Cam has been zoomed back
Full Nest View
Thank you NCTC
I'm confused!! Carolyn----didn't you used to blog as Carol???
I bet they took the zoom off
What do you think?
Nest has been empty for a while? I'm surprised the fish is still there. Seems obvious that Trudy is after the nest rather than food?
I love all the hometown talk. Keeps my mind off the troubles at shephards town. I work close to where you son goes to college, Eagle-eyed Sharon. It is a small world. Praying Belle can run out Trudy!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
A GooD MonDaY,
A GooD New WeeK,
tO yOU aLL.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I see I've missed quite a bit and have about 1000 comments to catch up on.
Do you think you could give me a quick rundown on what has happened this morning?? Is Trudy gone?
C(°Ù¿°)D Jim
bev, we, too, have donated to the Buddy fund from our raffles!
Glad the zoom is back out again.
Yea! They zoomed back. Will be interesting to see what we see now.
No Jim, Trudy is not gone. She was in the nest for a minute or 2 this morning. It appears Belle has buried Paddy and the egg.
hedgie, I have always been Carolyn but have lurked more than blogged over the last 2 years due to work, going to school and family issues.
I thougt...they pulled the cam back and now a new thread? Nope, not yet folks.
No, Jim, she isn' gone.......and Belle "buried" the nest contents---except for her fish. She has chased Trudy out a few times.
If you would like to join the Yahoo Eaglet momsters group, just click on this link
Yahoo Eaglet Momster
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/eaglet_momsters/
and ask for an invite.
All are welcome to join the nest!
The yahoo group is separate from this blog.
Hello Everyone. Just want you to know I am around, trying to read older comments. Seems Trudy is getting aggressive---GET OUT OF TOWN!
Wonder if poor Steve is preparing a notice. Guess he doesn't really have to, as everyone here knows what's happening.
BBL ☺♥
Here's my info for the list:
Maria from Newton, NJ
Okay, time for me to get back to work. Will check in later.
I emailed my info, but for now:
I'm Michele from Harrisville, WV.
glad cam zoomed out now.
Someone just landed
It looked like the camera just shook.
Thanks much, Eagle-eye Sharon and Hedgie. Whew I read a couple of comment from very early this morning, and it appeared that Belle wasn't doing too well.
But now that she has determined there are no life sounds or signs from the egg and has buried the two, I am very confident that she will be able to defend her territory.
She probably is standing guard in the tree above now. Has Lib been seen?? Did she get her own fish, or did he bring it in??
Unfortunately, like the year of the late snow storm, I think it is too late for a second clutch this year. It looks like the best pair and my favorite pair will survive this challenge.
C(°Ù¿°)D Jim
UPDATE is now on NCTC Eagle Cam
Nest Updates
Maria, I use to spend many summers up in Cranberry Lake at my Aunt and Uncle's lakehouse, I love that area
Click on this link for Update
Photos from yesterday are now up. You can see them at http://turnmeyer.smugmug.com/Photography
Once you get there go to the "Raptors - Eagles, Hawks, Osprey and more gallery". The first photo from yesterday is photo 32. All photos of the eagle outside the nest is Trudy, and of course all with the eagle in the nest are Belle...
You know what - Trudy didn't make a good choice because we've been told that our Sycamore Palace isn't deteriorating.
I just came back to read.
Just for those of you enjoying your buds, we have snow here again this morning.
Now I am getting P----
We have so much and we get one warm day and then cold and snow again.
I am sure Belle is ready to protect now. she is stronger and I would like to see her eat that other fish.
Thank you Scott - headed right over.
Thank you Scott, beautiful photos
I am saying that...
We've been told that our
Sycamore Palace IS deteriorating.
Thanks NCTC for the update.
Thank you, Scott. Very beautiful pictures. Nice to meet you and your wife yesterday:)
This is my first year watching the cam and it was amazingly overwhelming...in such a good way. I feel in love with this majastic pair and feel privledged to view their life from the comfort of my home while they battle nature and other eagles to survive. Belle and Liberty are amazing eagles.
Welcome mzlizza! I hope most feel the way you do and don't stop watching because of the outcome. This pair absolutely have owned my heart since 2006.
Eagle in flight - pic 48-551
Is that Lib, Belle or Trudy
Taking a break from grading papers.
Won't have much to say today but would like to suggest that what we are seeing is very much like the events that occurred near the Wilson bridge (VA/MD) about two years ago with George and Martha. Young female wanted the nest and George. Battle ensued. Martha injured, rehabilitated,returned to bridge area. Was fatally injured by the younger female. Much was known because construction workers watched and reported. New female and George mated.
I believe Belle has accepted the reality but will continue to defend until no longer physically able. Sometimes I do not like nature's way of doing things.
Need to go back to work. Will return to put the night light on.
@floralgirl thanks, we enjoyed meeting you all yesterday as well!
@Robyn thank you
FYI - John posted some pix from the nest yesterday afternoon on the Momsters yahoo group site (album is "2011 03/20 Visit..." or you can sort by who put them up (dcljohn)). There are a couple of Trudy and Belle at the nest, some individual shots of Belle, and of the immature eagle (Trudy? tho coloring seemed that of a younger eagle) we saw just after 4.
My next stop is to see Scott's photos!
Scott, these are breathtaking!!
Lynne, thanks for posting the update on the Rt. 40 eagle! So glad he has done well and is now frre to fly again!
@Mema Jo that is Trudy...Belle didn't decide to leave the nest until AFTER we left of course. :)
Wow, Scott, awesome shots! Thanks for sharing them with us!
@Harbingerdc thanks...I'm going to hopefully head up that way again in two weeks with twice the size lens...so I'm hoping to get better ones at that time.
Liberty is a loyal and loving mate; however, like George, he will let the females decide the outcome. It is their fight for territory and survival. Sad but there it is.
Bye
Carolyn, okay---trying to figure this out...I know we see you on Momster Mail.....have you been to Open House? Does Captain Gene honk when he drives your area?
If not, then I definitely have you confused with a Carol!
@Eagle-Eyed's Sissy thanks...
Thanks John for photos - I moved the album up front - wonderful pics.
Thanks SusanP for letting us know.
Scott, do you mind if I put those on the yahoo group as well?
Scott, thank you so very much for the incrediable photos!!
@ROCKING CIRCLE no problem..
@Paula - of course, do you want me to add them up there?
Good Scott - holler when you are coming up - Also 1st Market is in Shep'twn on April 3....
Scott - great pix! Thanks for sharing.
Have I missed it (since I have been at least TRYING to work today ...), or has the nest been empty (and silent) for quite a while - no Belle, Lib or dirty bird?
Wow Scott, beautiful pics!
@Mema Jo Will be April 3 as long as the weather and Eagles are permitting. :)
And Scott, just a little suggestion - the pics are so wonderful and you are going to get so many compliments, you might want to do 1 blanket "thank you" or we will keep you busy all day! :)
Momsters' Photo Albums
John & Scott there are albums each
for your works.........
Email if I can be of any help
@Eagle-Eyed Sharon
@SusanP
Thank you
SPLIT Keep commenting.......
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