THANKS STEVEN---I THINK I AM FIRST!!!!-----NORMABYRD
Oh how thrilling! Thanks for the new thread, Steven. Have a great weekend!Off to go get the others.
STEVEN--What a beautiful way to start your day----Thanks for keeping us up to date----HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND!!!!
BW Osprey cam is hiccupping. Wonder if they're trying to set up the eagle cam? Nope, just checked. Sometime in the next couple of weeks. But there is an update on the BW eagle cam site, and an Eagle Watchers Guide.
Osprey cam is down again...
Copied over from past thread :-)Thanks Norma Yes I am driving in first snow of the year, and its a whopper. neighbor and I just finished shoveling me out LOL. Grabbing a bowl of cereal real quick now and hoping to see a plow go by on my street, not gonna happen, but once I get a couple of blocks it should get much much better. No school anywhere today so the kids are NOT out this morning!!!! :-)Its not volunteer although in the future I certainly will have what I do on the list of places I will Volunteer..... But for today .I have a major responsibility to be there...today and get it set to go tomorrow. Will BLOG tonight a little unless I get snowed in there, at least where I am working I can get snowed in and have food warmth and a bed to sleep in...its not all that bad once I get there. Have a safe day out east too.
Hey Glo, getting paid for something you enjoy doing is great!Thanks for the new thread Steve.
5 days & Counting! Happy December!
Please help support the NCTC Eagle Cam Visit www.eagletmomsters.com Makes great Holiday gifts, too! Thank you!
Drive safe, Glo!
Getting daylight in Kent. Still too dark to see if anybody's home. BW is up and down today.
Suz, BW says they are checking out the cam...also, the eagle watcher's guide is the one that they have had.
Saw an adult bald eagle flying low over the Shenandoah River near Berryville, VA this am.OK, Steve, where's the pic?!
Yeah, Paula. Lisa sent me an email, said she was gonna do that. And yes again, it's the same eagle watchers guide. There may be people on here that don't have that yet. And new people starting to watch their eagle cam that have not seen it. She just posted it again because they're getting ready to go live too.Daylight in Kent, nobody home.
Cool video of a juvenile bald eagle in Maine. Copy and paste into your browser.http://www.wcsh6.com/news/local/article.aspx?storyid=46516
Suz, It is definitely a great guide, worth reviewing again!
Eagle back in FL!!!
And at Kent....
I'm BACK---Our electricity has been flickering off & one---I HOPE this is not a preview of things to come w/high winds predicted----CLOCK & COMPUTERS are now all working----WHERE ARE THE EAGLES LURKING???---Winds seem to be calm at the zoo---TAI is so laid back---he eats his bamboo while lying on his back!!!
Saw the eagle at Kent & then watched him fly away---White tail feathers & all---
Eating breakfast in FL, nice close up shot...eagle at Kent gone
Just got an email from Lisa, guess she's tired of me telling her the cam is down again. She said I could share this info:"...they're working on it, but may take some time as they're getting ready for the open house tomorrow. If you get strong storms, electricity may go out. I don't know if the wind is bad yet down at the refuge, but that might be what's causing the image delays. The wind and such can mess with our satellite dish reception."So now you know what's going on with the BW cam. It's up and down, but it seems to have been up for a while now, but haven't been watching. Friday, everybody has to put all the fires out before the weekend!
I was watching the majestic eagle eating in FL----Then electric went off again----Also TAI is a "sharpie"---Playing with a ball--when he rolls it--SNACKS fall out------So has this thing really figured out--ho! ho!I will check back in if Electricity behaves--ho! ho!
I put these Florida eagle pics in the momsters photo album, or you can view them here:http://s94.photobucket.com/albums/l120/pccompton/Florida%20Eagles/
CHECK out PALMBEACH.COM & you can see BUTA having another exam (1/2/06)---She is a real BEAUTY----
Good Morning (Almost noon) All eagles should be soaring with ease in this blustery wind. Thanks for the news article - guess that eaglet looks just like our 3 kids who are only a few months older. I just thought all the eaglets(juvies) would be down in warmer climates by now. Don't blow off the road on your way home Suzanne
PALMBEACHPOST.COM---Ignore first message---
Morning, MemaJo. Is it windy out now? I know it's still warm, but haven't been out in a while.Guess I'll find out shortly, getting ready to get outta here! Should take less than 3 hours this weekend. Took 3 hours Wed before Thanksgiving to get home. Rain, more rain, and TONS more cars than normal!
Yes, Suz it is windy! I can hear it whistling thru the windows here. Still a balmy 66°, temp hasn't dropped yet!
Ok, thanks Paula. Guess I'll go out and fight the wind. Just looked outside, no rain yet, but looks like it's misting. I'm glad, my jacket is still in my car. Staying nice and warm and dry! Well, maybe it is raining. Just heard someone tell someone else to run to their car. Guess I'll take my umbrella out of my drawer!Ok all, time for me to hit the road. All have a great afternoon/ evening. Hope everybody's electric stays on... including mine!Stay safe, warm, and dry this weekend. Hope all that aren't feeling well get well quickly!Eyes to the sky, see the raptors fly!
Electricity is blinking around here. May not be able to blog much longer.
WOW!!! someone turn off the fan!!! Really battling the wind out there.. had to cut some greens, yikes, this is awful. At least no major rain so far, but this wind is scary. Hope everyone's power stays on. Hey Glo hope you make it to and from work ok. My daughter wants your snow,she was pouting this morning seeing the weather, might send her your way to help shovel. Back to work, BBL if it's possible and I don't blow away out there.
Eagle back at FL
FLORALGIRL----We have been having some wind in Romney---temp 69°--sunny----My electric has been going off & back on every 1/2 hour------KAI is climbing Mount Rushmore----He's COOL----Have you been selling much today---
Tai trying to get a piggy back ride from momma. Hope Mits' training is going well-has to be interesting cause they're to discuss Pandas today.I can't bear the thought of GLO out there shoveling snow! The wind has died now some here - now the temps will probably dive down!
MEMA JO---Have you voted on BUTA'S name---I'm in the market for a name---What do you recommend?
WHERE do I find the FL ALBUM?
Adult eagle in FL nest arranging sticks That nest is really deep
Norma, Paula placed it on the Eaglet_Momsters site under albums.Let me know it you don't find it. are you watching the FL eagle in the nest? Looks as though it will take off soon to get more sticks
Fl nest now empty...Will probably return...
Norma Go to Panda cam 2 and watch our little prince. lol
The little prince now has his momma biting on any old stick they find out in the yard! lol
THANKS MEMA JO---Yes, I have been watching him---I LOVE watching him----I'll look for the pics thanks---
FL eagle back in the nest and being very busy.. Doesn't look as windy down there today as it is up here.Lynda always gets the best close ups.Oh, Boy! That's a great shot. Looking right at camera. I agree with Paula that temps down there are high and that's the reason for the 'open beak' a lot of the time and that the eagle isn't really squawking. I love this live feed....
Cam shot so close you sure can see the EAGLE EYE. (even as it blinks)
I saw the FL Album---EAGLE on nest at Kent----Isn't that the most perfect nest you have ever seen??
CHECK out FL---The wind is blowing her 'do---Funny---But she is keeping her COOL---
Both eagles in FL nest
TWO in FL nest---It's up so close, it's hard to see what is happening--
TIME for Beautiful SHARON !!!!!
You just beat Eagle Eyed Sharon for the WAX, Norma. lolMaybe she'll peak in here anyhow...
I really DON'T want it---I'll send it to her-----JO did you look in the PALMBEACHPOST.COM to see BUTA'S latest exam---You must---if you haven't seen it--
I did go & watch it.. Don't know how you found it way down there. It is also on the AJC site in Atlanta. It is so good She is so cute and large looking close up-- almost 10 lbs. Of course Tai is 80 lbs. Whoa!Did you vote on the name for Buta Buta yet..Don't forget to do so. I sent the ballot site out on Momsters to make it easy to find.
I need to leave for a short time...I will return...Keep watchful eye for eagles... BBL
Eagle at Blackwater
Looks like she is hunkered down to hang on....
2 eagles at BW
Eagle is in nest in FLBW eagle pic doesn't look as though it is refreshing now.ButaButa is a full armload for LunLun
Live eagle in FL...Cam stuck eagle at BW :):)
Sorry, FL eagle just flew the coop!
Buta Buta gets to go somewhere with LunLun. Camera hasn't followed them.
Guess LunLun didn't go too far They are back in the nest bed
Getting to be a game - Nest bed is empty again.... Now you see us Now you don't
LunLun does her rolly-polly holding Buta Buta and now it's nap time.
BW is updating again...and I'll be darned...those 2 eagles are really in the same spot! Guess it's too windy to fly so they are just hanging on!
Mema Jo Said:Getting to be a game - Nest bed is empty again.... Now you see usNow you don't Hmmmm? Wonder who that sounds like :)
Good evening, all my eagle friends. Hope this has been a wonderful day for each and every one of you. I voted on my Buta Buta's new name but no matter what, she will always be Buta Buta to me! I can't believe they didn't have that name on the list. :):):)
Eagles from BW finally left...
Hi everyone. Made it to work and home safely. Tough getting in but not bad at all getting home, well ya know til you get to the subdivisions and want down your street. I actually did get my car to and into my dirveway and finally garage though. My neighbor lady has hers int he street. Not good for her car or the street when the plows do finally go through. She has 2 sons close enough to help her hopefully later this evening though. My guess is the plows will do a much better job during the night and tomorrow Our Open House should be fine weather. We are expecting 150 people who helped to put this together. NOT open to the Public though so sorry as it is actually an undisclosed loaction etc. Very Very exciting for a handful of us as we have watched a dream and a prayer come to be right before our very eye!!!! Time now to eat!
Watching The Polar Express.... Getting in a holiday mood. BBL
Hello everybody. Did everybody go vote for Buta Buta's name yet? Interesting group of names I think. Where is everybody tonight? Kind of quiet in here.
HI EVERYONE, Glo that is truly amazing that you can get a snow-plow in your sub-division right after a storm, we do not have that amount of equipment here in the DC area, so people make fun of us, when we can't get our act together, right after a storm, and there are alot of hilly areas in Montgomery and Frederick counties.
From the amount of comments this evening I would say that the wind blew everyone out of here! lolGlo-know you had a busy beautiful day and here's to the best of everything tomorrow.Mits-that crazy little dog that does tricks email just amazes me what technology can do.Sharon-I also voted, but like you I know she'll always be to us what you first called her! Little Buta Buta...
BOY, MEI AND TAI ARE UP LATE TONIGHT EATING BAMBOO.
Well now Mits, you're just going to have to talk to them about that on Monday!!lol
It's 5:30 am in Botswana at PP...Alpaca and flock of white birds are there. Camera is a little distorted...
Tai is lying on his back eating bamboo and Mei was stretching and rolling around in the floor.
Mema Jo, you've got mail.
Using my Real Player, I get to watch Panda Cam 1 and 2 at the same time. I love it.
Hi My Eagle Friends.Pretty late getting in here.Yesterday I laughed and laughed at Tai outside eating bamboo laying on his back same as he is doing now inside.Glo glad you was able to make it in and out. How much snow did you all get?Was getting hair cut today. Electric went out twice in that short amount of time in the beauty shop.
Hello Dana. How goes it with you?
Jo, that e-mail really amazed me too, like having a dog, but none of the responsibility.
Poor little Tai has such a rough life. I don't know how the little feller makes it from day to day! :):):)
Yeah, that dog email was awesome!
Mei looks like she is having a hard time finding the comfort zone.
All of a sudden he is really into the bamboo and loving it.
Okay, I am feeling like a neglected redheaded stepchild! :)
I just went to Frodocam to see if there were any updates. It still says there has been a delay in updating photos. They turned out to be a real flop, I think.
Sharon-I emailed beakspeak.com to take F&F Brisbane out of their headlines - they did so. I don't think they will ever update the site - Forum is still showing Oct 9. Got my mail & Got R Dun!One of these times as he lies on his back eating his bamboo - he is going to CHOKE! I don't see how bamboo fills their tummies.. Must not be heavy eaters.
I was thinking about you today and was just about to start worrying why you weren't on here yet today, Dana. I think you & I get our monthly haircuts about the same time - mine was yesterday. Haven't heard from Vicky today.
LOL Take the bamboo and run! Tai did just that!
They eat a lot of bamboo, but it passes thru their system in about 5 hours, so they have to eat a lot to feel full. Pandas poop even though they are sound asleep. Nice little tid-bit of knowledge.
Now that is a glorious sunrise at PP.
I was going to alert you to the sunrise - it's 6am and the camera person always captures the sunrise. Brilliant colors.Mits You're learning a lot of important facts about pandas.....lol
Gee, that is an attractive pose for MEI:):):).
Mits Who is on Panda Cam 2 /Sure is a lot of stretching going on.
I was just watching the sunrise too. Absolutely beautiful. I love knowing that pandas poop even though they are asleep. I am so grateful we don't! :):):)
Mits, I love learning all this panda stuff. Now we have somebody to absolutely keep us up on all things Panda!
CONGRATS TO OUR ONE & ONLY WAX QUEEN Sharon
What kind of bird is that fishing in Pete's Pond?
Thank you, Mema Jo! :):):)
I agree about the panda poop, I told them that I would probably be doing the same thing in about 20 years. Jo, remember a couple of reports back on the panda page, they informed us they would probably be watching Mei and Tai 24/7 during the weekends, they are concentrating on how many times he is nursing now and if they will pull the plug or let him to continue to nurse.
Its beak is really wide at the end.
Jo, that is Mei, Tai has pulled bamboo up to his new fave corner
Yes Mits, I do remember it was in the report. I thought I was seeing some lights on & thought of that same information. Looks as Tai is too interested in his bamboo. I don't know what is with Mei.... sorta restless.
Mema Jo, did you see the poop shoot of the big white bird at Pete's Pond? Pretty nasty looking and really wasn't a shoot, just dropped right down! :):):)
Good night and sweet eagle dreams, my friends of fine feathers and fur. Blog with ya in the morning time!
JMHO, I don't think she likes the different routine of the late night cams.
Sharon I had just closed Pete's Pond... Look up under the birds info.. I don't like to look them up because when you go back to the real player, you need to watch the ads again.
I will do that tomorrow, Mema Jo. Forgot about them having that. Good night all.
MAN THOSE ADS ARE SOOOOOOO ANNOYING!!!!!
Well you two cut out without any warning... I guess Dana is gone too.It is that time of the evening....Good Night All.... Sweet Dreams of Friends...
I'm here was trying to read mailThinking of what name to vote on for Buta Buta
Sorry I didn't reply Sharon doing ok if I hadn't got my hair almost blown off. lolMema Jo I think we do too. Sorry I wasn't here to reply.I know she will always be Buta Buta to us. But those names, Girls I don't know something is missing in them. It's all we have to pick from but I feel like they didn't add the true one.
Dana, I agree. Nothing they have there strikes me as the right one...maybe we are too used to Buta Buta or Buta Ball. I thought they might have "Atlanta Peach" or "Georgia Peach" as a pick, but don't even see that!Night all, it's late, blog at ya tomorrow!
Good Morning, Is everyone sleeping in? LOL. actually I am up very early. Thenk I have an adrenaline problem today. That is a Great problem to have as long as I don't have it again tomorrow LOL> Everyone enjoy your day. Will BLOG some later today and off tomorrow.
Good morning, my eagle friends. I hope everybody has a wonderful day!
More sightings of our eagles! I received this email this morning. I saw the most amazing thing this morning.Hi, I heard the squawk of a bird a few minutes ago (about 7:10 AM) and looked out the window toward the river. I saw an adult eagle flying in circles but not landing as if to fish which is what we would normally expect to see. After a couple of circles over our patio (facing the river) and new screened porch I saw an immature eagle also flying right with the adult, also in circles. This continued for a minute or so, then they flew off towards Shepherdstown, still circling though, as they moved away. I have no idea what was going on but it was fascinating behavior and a great payoff for being up early on Saturday morning! Any ideas what might have been happening? Was the adult teaching the younger one something or trying to lead it away? We are probably only a mile from the nest in the sycamore, as the eagle flies. Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!! Beth B
Oh, and Good Morning All :):)Beautiful, but chilly day here. Sun is out and wind has subsided!
Our babies wouldn't still be around, would they? Thanks Paula for passing that along. What an amazing sight for Beth to see. I have never seen an eagle except on here. If not before, I hope to see our eagles this spring!!!
Sounds like there is some sort of juvie around, Sharon.
Good Moring My Friends In Eagle World....Now how many of us would have liked to be Beth B. Awesome really truly just wow. Where is that gals porch at. I think I might become a camper on her porch lol ooops forgot too cold.
Well there goes Tai up a tree. Now who would think a panda could climb a tree lol Mits do pandas like the cooler weather outside or not?
Foggy out in KENT, looks like a little frost on the nest.
Right now Maine MTKent MTFlorida MTBW MT
I think they are looking for TaiWhere oh where can Tai beOh where can that panda beLike have covered the groundsLooked up all the treesI think he's playing You can't find me
Good Morning All WOW, Beth certainly had a wake-up call this morning! Not certain what the activity was about - but I bet Steve could venture an educated guess.. I haven't put up any of the cams yet, but Dana gave a really good report. I think the Panda cam will be first. I like your poem, Dana.Glo was up early today - I think it's Open House?
Thanks Mema Jo it really wasn't a poem. It was just some fun thoughts I jotted down.What's funny is the whole time they were looking for him. He had come down out of the tree. Setting beside it muching on bamboo like crazy. Guess they kept getting him mixed up with Mei lol
There is an update for Friday on Atlanta Panda site. Interesting information.I was hoping they would tell us about LunLun taking ButaButa for 2 separate trips out of the nest bed yesterday around 4:30.
DANA They pretty much prefer the cooler weather, but I think our guys have adapted really well to the climate here.
That cam for Atlanta upsets me so much. I am sure there is enough money in Georgia to fund that cam.Oh well what does it matter can't see her till Monday (((she knows we miss and love her Buta Buta))))).Mema Jo did you vote yet?
I thought that is why Tai is so relaxed outside during days like this. ty Mits our "special" reporter. Oh by the way ... I am still crossing the thought through my mind "pandas poo while sleeping". I knew babies did but not the adults.
When I look at the names. I think of Mei and Tai; that is what they are called not the meaning. So I am trying to find a name that would be good for the little one.Which I knew how to prounounce the one that starts with the " s ".
Xiao Tao (shao-tao) how do you prounce " shao ". Because they seem to be called by the first part of the chinesse name like Mei --- she is call Mei. Tai Shan is called Tai. So how do you say " shao "??
DANA, looks like x in chinese is pronounced like an s in our language...Mei Xiang for example is pronunced (may-SHONG) her name means "beautiful fragrance".
But Mits how do you say Saho?
GOOD NOON EAGLE BUDDIES---MITS---What other than the "Little Prince's" pooping habits did you learn yesterday--ho! ho!---We always miss you when you are gone--What kind of weather do you all have in MD VA area---We are sunny & 39° here----How did you all decide about the name---I am not in love with any of them---What did I read TAI'S name meant "Little Mountain" or something like that---
Good Noonie to you, Norma! I did vote on her official name but you all knowit's alway going to be for me! Beautiful Buta Buta
Mema Jo I am trying to figure out how to prounounce " Shao "????
It certainly wouldn't be said she-o
Don't like her to be called "ping"
Isn't anyone going to help a poor soul here with how to pronounce shao???????????????????????????????????
Dana I would just be guessing but -SHA - O (pronounced with the long 'a' sound) Better yet just say Little Peach! I am like you Dana, I don't like using first names that are the same as our DC pandas and that eliminates four of them right there. I also am not going to want her named after a river! lolButa Buta it is!
I wonder if it stays foggy all day out in Washington state? No eagle fixes so far today. BW has a shadow but I don't know what is causing it. It could be the cam - Oh Yes! The juvie pic has been posted by Lisa on the BW site. That girl is on the ball
NORMABYRD Tai Shan (tie-SHAWN) means "peaceful mountain".
I actually learned about the pooping while sleeping from a voulnteer a couple of weeks ago when I was there.
Hubby is reminding me gently that I have work to do...decorating, so I'll check in later.
Mits That little peaceful mountain has turned into a volcanic mountain! lol
I don't need a reminder - There are so many visible signs as I look around the house that shows me what work I have to do - I just don't want to get started! But here I go - I have already gotten some beautiful Christmas cards... Think I'll start on mine. BBL
Dana, I think it is this:SHOW=shao
MITS----Thanks---Peaceful Mountain---I want to know everything about them---I also read that the bamboo comes out as it when in---(dumb way to express it)---That's why they sleep so much & eat so much they don't absorb much of the bamboo at all---So not much energy?? Isn't he fun---He really SHAKES those branches---
Signing you up for the volunteer program, NORMABYRD Your great, and that is exactly why they need to eat lots of bamboo...oooppps, hubby caught me on the puter, tee-hee!!!!!
BW has the juvie pic on the cam site.
Saturday, Dec 2, 20064 Days & counting!
Hee hee maybe Tai will be a "peaceful mountain" after he gets a good bit older. lolHe is a "rolling storm", "an explorer", and a "wrestler". lol
Mei and Tai are sharing a treat in the old yard and Tian is roaming around the new yard.
Maybe sharing is not the word I would use, Tai is fighting for a piece of the treat.
So glad they are showing all 3 pandas.
After you all voted did you fill out that regristation form?
Yes, Dana, I did, then they will just send you some e-mails from the paper, you can always unsubscribe, but you might want to get them, if you want some reports re:BUTA-BUTA.
lol Tai got some
ty Mits I went back voted and filled out the regristation form after going through all the steps. It finally said "Thank You For Voting". I have voted for Buta Buta other name only to be a part of the vote ( :
The AJC Blogs has some very interesting comments from the viewers concerning the cut back of hours... The one from Trisha gave me a chuckle:Zoo Atlanta is not trying hard enough to get sponsorship.Absolutely agree.On the other hand, Tai Shan is an absolute delight.
WOOOOOOO, LOW BLOW, LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
Geez, that blog sounds alot like the osprey nest out west, those people are brutal.
Some of the other comments are comparing the cam hours to those of DC. Really blasting the CEO of the zoo for not keeping the cam 24/7 at least until we see the first steps, know her name and after she is presented to the public.
They really put treats for Mei & Tai in some unusal places if that in fact is what the camera was showing us.
BBL Getting ready to go to Mass.
The Bob Nardelli, the one poster was referring to is the CEO of HOME DEPOT. Just a reminder the national zoo stopped 24/7 viewing of Tai around the same time. We got most of our shots on some of these important things by way of the local media and the zoo putting them out there.
Eagle in FL
Make that 2!
I was just notified by the sister of a dear friend that beakspeak.com has put up the Port Lucie site. It takes you right to the cam page. My dear friend is MitsCeil is her sister and the best lurker ever!
Well, Mits When did they start the 24/7 viewing after they had it down at DC?
Here I go talking Panda and watching eagles..... I really will BBL
LOL!!!!! Jo, my sister is the best, she gets around these cams too. She informed my this a.m. that an eagle flew into the FLA nest with a stick and knocked the one that was there down into the nest, she thought it had knocked it out:), would have loved to have seen it, must be a deep nest.
Jo, they did the zoo-cam 24/7 from right after the birth til Tai was around 2 months old, now I will have to rely on my sister to set me straight on that info.
EAGLE IN MAINE...............
BOTH ARE IN MAINE.................
MAINE CAM ACTING WEIRD, JUST 1 EAGLE NOW.
I KNEW THAT WOULD HAPPEN, JUST AS IT WAS GETTING READY TO TAKE OFF, TIME WAS UP.
Mits, I got to see them for moment too. Quick in & out.
Looks like they were doing some stick moving, Paula and enjoying a little snack.
Hi everyone. Its been a cold but wonderful day. Be sure to watch the news tonight. OK Just kidding, but TV was there from everywhere etc. Kind of neat. Word will be out and the phones will be ringing. We oen on Wed. We even got a santa volunteer today...how cool is that! And our Feathered Friends gift is now just a very few days away. I happen to be off on Wed right now so I surely hope we get to see "Our Eagles that day!
Tai is all curled up in his favorite corner and Mei is sleeping under the light.
Good evening, my fellow bloggers. Hope everybody has had a wonderful day.
I am glad you are back. Not too much happening - Pandas are asleep This has just been a SLOW SATURDAY.
Yes, I'm GLAD you are back also:):):).
So what do we want to talk about????Panda Poo was covered last night--I did miss the large white bird's poop shoot last night at Pete's Pond, Sharon. You know - you can vote, vote & vote many more times for the panda name you want for Buta Buta.....Isn't that peachie keen!
I didn't know you could vote more than once. Then, why do you have to even register. I figured that was to limit the voting.
I have 2 angels around here that really do a good job keeping watch over me! Thank you.
I THOUGHT THAT ALSO...DUH!!!
Wave-lit cam is messed up...dawn at PP.
Who Got The Wax ???????????
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