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1 – 200 of 233 Newer› Newest»Thank you Steven for the new thread. Have a good day.
I'll go call everyone over.
Thanks Steven for the new thread and I see that Dana has her pink back and is our number 1 girl on the blog for today. And with that, a good day to you all. TTYL
Nice to see you still flying around Candy. Hope you get to drop back in.
I'm holding the door open but it is getting cold in here. Turning up the heat till others get over here.
GOOD MORNIN' STEVEN!!---Just in case you haven't heard---WVU beat OU last night in the "FIESTA BOWL"---They unfurled the American flag across the field during the singing of the "National Anthem" & a LIVE "EAGLE" SOARED back & forth across the flag!!---I knew we had the game then--ho!---IT WAS BEAUTIFUL!!!!---Thanks DANA!!---You are #1 today & every day!!!
Thanks for the new thread, Steven, and Happy New Year to you!
Thanks for the heads up, Dana.
Good morning, Norma, Jo, and Candy! I forgot you had to return to school already, Candy. Was wondering where you were this morning. DUH me!
Norma, I hear your team won! Congrats on a good game for them!
Jo, thanks for all you do keeping us updated on Sandra. I've joined your power prayer at noon. Hope she gets well quickly and completely!
GOOD MORNIN' CANDY!!---Hope you don't freeze!!----Daughter in FL called & it was 28°----ENJOY this GLORIOUS DAY!!----WILL KEEP SANDY IN OUR PRAYERS!!!
Moose cam is on.
2 moose locking horns, other male is totally ignoring them.
Ooh, food fight!! I am so hooked on that moose cam.
Very wierd looking bird on Africam. Have NO idea what it is.
Oops, that's the second time the cam operator found it and it flew off. Oh, landed in the water!
I like watching them too, Megan. they are awesome!
http://www.africam.com/nkhoro_cam1.php
Look quick at above link. Anybody know what that bird is?
I see the top of the EAGLE'S head at the TEROSO nest!!!----Those eggs should hatch within the next 6 days!!----Can't wait!!---Don't know how we could ever see them!!!
Doors unlocked for Jo and Wanda to come on in. ( :
Florida 28 degrees yuck
It was really awesome wasn't it Norma? I loved it when they did our flag and the eagle so inspiring.
ME CAM is down----I heard the wind howling!!---
The tour "buses" have arrived and are watching the zebras and wildbeestes. Impalas are there also, but off cam at the moment.
Have you all seen anything but small birds in PA?
Couldn't get the Atlanta cam to work.
Suzanne missed the bird. Do see the tour vehicle and animals.
Hey DANA!!----I love your little "pink" cat!!---Did you watch the whole game?----
Yeppers I did Norma Ed was yelling go go go
SUZANNE---Have you seen PRECIOUS SQUIGGLES this a.m.----Isn't it quiet with out the BONGO DRUMS??-- I see BAI by herself!!!
Good morning, everybody. It is a balmy 12 degrees in Bluefield this morning and everything is all white!
GO MOUNTAINEERS!!! Awesome game last night. I had no doubt we would win after I saw the eagle flying at the beginning!
Morning, Sharon.
Norma, I saw Precious and Bai about an hour ago playing tug-o-war with a piece of bamboo. In fact, if you look, you can still see it on the floor. Squigs lost that one, so she walked out the door you see at the top of the cam. The bamboo is that long piece laying inside right of the door. Squigs has been outside ever since.
ATLANTA CAM is showing the usual!!-----'LITTLE BEAUTY' asleep atop the tripod!!----Want to watch her explore & move around!!---All that must happen before 10:00 a.m.---ho!
MORNIN' BLUEFIELD SHARON!!---I wrote earlier that when I saw the EAGLE---I knew that was a good sign!!----Wasn't it GREAT to make those announcers eat their words!!! Kept saying WV was out classed!!!! ----WHITE is so COOL!!---
SUZANNE---I missed SQUIGGLES again!!---Just see BAI by herself at the table!!!!
Good morning; I started a new
blog. Indiana nesting eagles 2008
It will have photos taken this
year of the eagles here in vigo co.
indiana.I put two photos of the
nest.The adults have added to it.
I hope the photos came out ok,let
me know.
Thanks Dave
BACK TO ATLANTA!----One change---Now LUN LUN is sleeping on the floor in the same room with BUTA BUTA!!!!
Normabyrd, did you see Owen Schmitt crying on the interview? I thought that was so cool! Andrew got a mohawk like his last month but had to get rid of it for the East River Mountain Town Band concert.
MORNIN' DAVE!!----Sounds GREAT!!---I very much look forward to see your new photographs!!!---Thanks!!
YEAH SHARON!!!---He says he doesn't want to leave WV!!---He really played a good game!!----It must be hard on these sports players to have to leave the team when they graduate!!----They have such a bond with the other players!!!
I forgot to tell ya to click on
the nest photo.
Dave
DANA...You have email.
Good Morning Norma...
That was an excellent game, wasn't it? Kinda made up for the Pitt game!
SHARON...There is something special about seeing a BIG,BURLEY football player cry. Lets you know they have a good heart.
Norma-Defensive Player of the Game Reed Williams is from Moorefield. Way to go Reed. What a game. Hubby's friend is from OK. Told me a bunch of hillbillies couldn't beat the likes of OU. Pretty sure we kicked butt. LOL BWW was WILD. And somewhere in the midst of the crowded of blue and gold was one OU Fan. Think he got off the bus at the wrong stop. LOL
WANDA---Did you tell the BLOG that when I was in Shepherdstown to see my "beautiful" grand-kids---That we bumped into each other at the video store!!---CARM--(grandson)- --was QUITE impressed by meeting CAPT. EAGLE!! ho!---It was nice seeing you all!!
Morning Dave ty checked out the new photos. Big nest.
Morning Sharon you have snow on the ground there?
Jill nice hearing from you gal. Glad you was with us all watching WV game. Well sorta we were all together ( :
Yes I did, Norma. They were BEAUTIFUL children. It was really special to see you and Lisa.
Glad Carm was impressed with Capt Eagle; most kids are... (He is wonderful with children).
JILL----That was AWESOME!!!----No one thought WV had a chance against OKLAHOMA!!!!----VICTORY WAS SWEET!!----I can't remember our old coach's name!!----ho!--Now it's COACH STEWART!!!---Players love him!!!!----I think I heard the EAGLE was wanting WVU to win!!----ho!!!---I have to stop this stuff!!---I think it's because I didn't get must sleep!!!
Dana, did you get your email?
SUZANNE----Forgive us WV people!!!
ho!-----WV takes FOOTBALL seriously!!!----We will all be sane tomorrow!!----You can join us if you like!!!---ho!---I know you like the TERPS!!
Our local boy and two others were here over Christmas for the day. They said heck with Rodriquez we have a bowl game to win. And that appeared to be the attitude last night. I think White said it all "Stewart should be our coach" I look for an announcement Monday.
SUZ...Safe trip home.
Have to get ready to take Mom for her Treatment tody. After a year of pain, this is her last hope. Please throw in a little prayer for her after Sandra's Power Prayer today.
LOTS of SNOW & wind at the OREGON site!!!
JILL----That was said last night by PRES. GARRISON after the game!!
STEWART is COACH!!
Missed that Norma. Thanks. He deserves it.
SUZANNE---SAFE TRIP HOME & LOVE PATS FOR "GYPSY" & HER HOUSE MATES!!---
I am just anxious to get back to the old routine---paper & mail every day, etc.----TIME TO BEGIN 2008!!!---
SD ZOO---GAO GAO was on the screen-----Then she went out the door!!
Want to see DAVE'S photographs!!!
You WV folks remind me of Indiana Hoosiers during basketball season! No worries, I'll just listen tomorrow, but glad you all had a good game. I like the Terps because that's my alma mater! UMD grad. But gotta admit, don't follow them either.
PANDA ALERT. Squigs is climbing!!! She's adorable.
Look at her go! What a cutie.
Look at her working! HOpe she's careful, can't work those back legs like she'd like to, I think! Oh, she's turned around and is now sitting.
Oh, she's gonna climb down! Look at the big girl go!
Uh oh, she either got down very fast, or fell! Oh, musta fell, but she's only about 2' off the ground. But there she goes back up. Man, she's gonna take a big panda nap later! She's really working on this.
Time for me to hit the road. All have a great eagle/panda day. Squiggles is still trying to climb, but she's slowing down. Getting sleepy. Looks like she's getting ready to take a nap now. She made it up top again, such a cutie!
Eyes to the sky, see the raptors fly!
Morning, all...ooops it's afternoon!
Afternoon Paula nice to see you came in.
Wanda I am going to kitchen to be with Ed. Will check mail later ty
and I have your mother in prayers also. Hope they help her today.
In our nest with food!!!!
OOOOhhh,,,,looks like road kill!
Looks like Lib is trying to woooo his lady love!
Don't give up Lib - your Lady Love will be there in a little while!!
hee hee I was thinking the same thing. Maybe they had a quarrel and this is Liberty's peace offering ( :
LOL - you snooze you lose!!
Well I guess it is going to take more than a piece of burger to bring Belle to the nest. lol Liberty's got his work cut out for him.
Maybe she was in the mood for fish!!
Our cam has been freezing up every now and them. Then it goes!!!
BBL Lib is still enjoying his lunch...........
EAGLE ALERT!
GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE~~
Got to sleep late, woke up late..........
Good to see an eagle eating on the nest, assuming it means the same thing in WV as it means at BW.
Jim
That's the 3rd time I have tried to get in----
MORNIN' PAULA!!---WELCOME BACK JIM!!---Sorry Jim--I never know if you are getting up or going back to bed!!----SO---I'll just say MORNIN' every time you come back on the BLOG!!!--ho!
JIM Would you have any idea why my sister-in-law would be on Pete's Pond and everything is showing in 10 seconds. Birds walk then stop 10 seconds then start walking again. Same with water moving. ????
I would have loved to have see SQUIGGLES get down the log or up the log!!---She's an independent little thing!!!---Would love to hold her just once!!!
Dana, I'll check how it is on mine ... it's dark there now, so I don't have it on.
Good morning to you too, Norma.
Jim
Jim mine has been running ok I checks days ago when she told me. I don't know what to suggest to her. I did resend the link but that didn't help.
Pete's is working continuously on mine, Dana... a thousand bats chasing a million flying insects.
Does your sister have a broadband (high speed) Inernet connection? A dial-up will cause the flow to stop.
Otherwise, she might restart her computer to refresh the RAM (Random Access Memory).
Jim
DIVERS--DIVERS----2 or 3!!
Liberty just left. He was there for quite a while.
ME CAM is still down!!!
Jim she is on Verizon.
Turns it off at night when she goes to bed.
Norma I see 3 divers
Lib is gone. I didn't see him leave because 'puter took a crap...
4 divers !!
nope 5
now 6 lol
Goodevening all,
Hope you are all ok and happy,,
Just watching Pete's Pond, and there are elephants there right now
Love Chrissy
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6 DIVERS!!---NOW!
Ok I give up THEY ARE EVERYWHERE !!
Chrissy I was watching them also. The smaller ones didn't seem to want to leave. Until the larger ones made them.
Hello Chrissy! How the heck are ya?
Arnt they lovely Dana,
I can't get enough of them, they are so reagal, and as for those babies,,, well,,, so very naughty, I wouldnt like to be their mum, I think smack on the bottom with a long trunk comes to mind here.
Love
Chrissy
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Chrissy, I think both elephants are male, and they're practicing their sparring in prep for the rut.
Jim
Hi Sharon petal,
I'm ok thanks pet how are you getting on now girl, better I hope,,
All I seem to have done is panda sit for a long time, what with Betty Boop in San Diego and Princess at Atlanta, and ofcourse I can't forget our very own little bundle of joy Gobbo at Washington,,
and then now and again I pop over to Memphis, but most of all I love my darling girl Mei Xiang, she is so special, one of a kind, I know Bai is a brilliant mother but it's Mei for me all the time.
Love anf hugs
Chrissy
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Dana, I think your sister would be better off contacting Verizon. There are too many factors involved to assess it here ... age and features of her computer, amount of RAM, etc., etc. Also, it could just be something temporarily wrong with her line.
Jim
JIm what I am trying is I sent her the Africam link and ask her to watch when daylight. See if there is a 10 second delay. If not I am thinking it is her realplayer which is what run Pete's Pond.
DANA,
The link below is also a link to Pete's Pond, it throught Nat Geo,
if her realplayer is playing her up she might get to it this way,,I hope ??????
Love and hugs
Chrissy
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http://www9.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/wildcamafrica/
Boy I need a panda nap bbl
Good afternoon
Well it's time to go home for the
day.I changed my blogs.I enjoy this
site and everyone here,Stay warm
and I'll see ya tomarrow.
Indiana Nesting Eagles---Dave
Thanks Chrissy tell the Mother Hens I said Hi
Hi Dana,
I will when they come on to blog pet, but thats on MSN,
I have enough trouble copeing with one page let alone two, and they dont all arrive till 7pm after dinner is all done and over with.
AND I havn't even eaten yet myself, so I better go and grab a bite to eat before my computer starts to go ping for the start of MSN !!!
Love and hugs
Chrissy
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I just heated up vegetable soup that my sister made yesterday. It is absolutely scrumptious.
Eagle in our nest and something does not look just right?
Is anybody else watching?
I don't see white tail feathers.
IT's really windy here again, I think the wind is ruffling his feathers.
Megan, do you think that is one of ours?
Okay, now I think it is. Somebody else came and then left.
We think they're both ours.
I guess it is the wind like Megan suggests that makes the eagle look different..... Best keep watching.
Looks like it's cleaning up leftovers from earlier. Again, the wind is really gusting here.
Oh thank you Steven!!
I was going to say that whoever - they knew right where the leftovers
were!
Hi all
SORRY JIM !!!!!!
I missed your comment pet, please forgive my bad manners pet.
I thought the same thing,,, but I think they were playing too, they only looked like young boys to me, but I did wonder about the walking backwards thing !!!
BUT I can't watch for too long with those insects flying past the camera, makes me go crosseyed.
So I go back to my beloved Pandas,,,,,,
Been some lovley play tonight..
Mei up her tree playing upside down, and the son an heir running up and down his tree with his new ball strap,, and little ZZ playing with Bai and jumpping up and down off her big blue cotton reel..
Aint life grand.
Love and hugs
Chrissy
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IS IT ME OR IS BABY ZZ TRYING TO EAT BAMBOO ???????
See what you think ?????
Chrissy
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Just that first impression of seeing the eagle didn't look right. Skeered me!
Sharon - I am still staring at the eagle... It looked the size of Lib but now it looks the size of Belle.
Chrissy - turn on our eagle cam..
More left overs there then I thought!
OK JO
C
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Looks a beautiful day there Jo doesnt it
Is that Lib ?????
Chrissy
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Do you see the mark at the top center of the beak?
POOF
Chrissy - it is still so very winds and temps are low...... But the sun has been shining all day.
My word that bird is fast,, but then I cant get used to this time delay thingy......
Beautiful bird though !!!!
I didnt get time to look at any mark on the beak Jo as I tried it flew off pet.
love and hugs
Chrissy
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Go to http://swiftnet.us/jeffersoncam/ to see Bluefield's snow.
I just closed down your cam as I was checking the snow.. I see the streets are cleared!..
Did anyone take any pictures so we can look at the beak?
Bai is got ZZ in her mouth and taking her where she wants her.
Oh Sharon,
It look s pretty pet,,I'm still waiting for our snow to arrive pet,
but I think its fsr to cold to snow here yet.
Looks a beautiful place to live too.
love and hugs
Chrissy
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I can post one - Steve did come on and state that it was one of ours...
I would love to see what you was talking about as far as the beak. ty
Link last 2 pics on Momsters
There is your link, Dana.
GOBBO [Tai Shan] in the training pen again,,being fed leaf eater biccies, isnt he a good boy !!!
Nest Still empty Jo !!!
love anf hugs
Chrissy
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Sharon just sent me some good pics of this visit - I'll post in just a few.
RIGHT !!
Its nearly 9pm here,, and there's a prog I would like to watch on TV.
Going to make a hot chocolate ready to sit and cuddle up.
Night night all sleep well.
Speak tomorrow, hopefully.
love and hugs
Chrissy
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Dana - sent you an email...
Chrissy - eagles probably won't return for a while if in fact they do return today.
Atlanta has a little girl that has woken up ( :
ok Jo thank you pet,
night all.
love and hugs
Chrissy
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Did I really say "little" lol
plop down she goes
Nite Chrissy take care
Buta Buta isn't little anymore, is she. I sure remember when she was. Well, we have Tai, Buta Buta and ZZ. All different sizes to watch...
What is going on at Bai and ZZ cam?
Buta Buta laying on her back eating bamboo reminds me of when Tai does that.
EAGLE ALERT - CHRISSY COME BACK!
Eagle eating in our nest
Appears to be eating.
Well just who do you think it is???
What is the marking on the left wing?
Is it just sunlight shadow.....
And POOF again!
gone
POOF
That sure wasn't the norm place for take off...
Didn't see it, Mema Jo.
Jo, - I was just looking at that...I thought it was sunlight at first also...looks like more to me than sunlight - sun was hitting the back of the eagle in the pic I have....
Any thoughts, Steve?
I only have one pic - I sent it to Steven....eagle turned before I could get another one.
I only got a pic of the take off from the nest.. Didn't think to take one of him in the nest......
My pics are in the album......
Going to be meeting Germany Bound crew for dinner...... BBL
Oh yes,,,, Christine's exam shows a
new little gal will be coming into the family in May!
Congrats, JO
I wouldn't worry too much about the white patch. looks like a few feathers may be gone due to a scrap of a crash or something...
My typing is really bad... try again
I wouldn't worry too much about the white patch. looks like a few feathers may be gone due to a scrap or a crash or something...
Thank you Steve. We are worry-warts!
Thanks Steve! I had to come back to look for your comment ---- Out the door to dinner.........
Thanks, Steve. Appreciate you taking a look.
Look at the moosecam...cow up close
EAGLE ALERT - OUR NEST!
BOTH THERE NOW!
Eeagle Alert in our nest. Now 2
Wow this has been exciting. Glad Steven was here to help us out. Thank you Steven.
PAULA That sure is a closeup of the moose cow. Pa. has deer feeding on it's cam again.
dOh BTW I want you people to keep your cold air up there in the north. :) It was in the 20's here today with a good stiff wind blowing. We were told not to go outside for recess with the kids.
Some people said they even saw snow flurries, although I was too busy in class to look out now and again. We did have some black looking clouds in the sky that looked like snow clouds.
You can see ZZ nursing it is a close up of Bia and her.
ZZ was under something and must have been yelling for Mom. Bai came pulled her out and left her upside down on her back. Now she just came back to her.
Can anyone else get into the cam? I can't get it to open.
Thank goodness it isn't just me!
Not sure when it went down - I tried about an hour ago when I got home...
Guess we'll have to look at the moose and the deer.
Dave has some new photos - just click on his name from today... I am just now going into look at them.
There are also some pics from today's visits on the Momster site.....
I saw the pics from today's visit and just found one new pic at Dave's, did I miss some? I went to Fort Randall dam today and got some pictures, but I am just working on them now. I finally got some halfway decent pheasant pictures, I hope.
I think the one Dave posted was the Eagle's nest.. Don't think you missed any others.
Jo, I am going to send a picture through momsters. Tell me what you think, I can't decide if it is just the way the sun is hitting the eagle or if it's feathers are really that reddish, golden.
I can't get the cam page open either:(
I can't get our cam up now either. Earlier, I couldn't get into the blog to alert for the late visit.
Haven't looked at Dave's pics, either!
If you get a chance look at the email I sent. Is it a young bald eagle??
Deb - Looks like a Juvie to me...their feathers get bleached out by the sun...maybe 1-2 years old?
Dave - nice nest picture
Thanks for looking--I was hoping for a young golden eagle, but the pictures I looked up on the internet didn't look anything like this one.
I just looked at your pic, Deb - I was away from the computer....
I had just never seen any juvie other then darkish brown. I was also thinking that maybe it was a golden eagle but didn't take time to look them up. Whatever - he is beautiful!
Deer back at PA
I had a good day out watching eagles too. I am busy with pictures but caught a cute clip I wanted to share first thing.
"Hi" Drama
Ho Ho! He was getting his talons into a little bit of everything! Glad you had a good day & will look forward to some more clips!
I don't think those deer ever stop eating... Must be corn or some kind of feed right there in front of the cam. I thought we might see the young buck from last evening returning.
I am going to call it a day!
Good Night All
Peace to you & yours
Prayers being said for all needs
Well, Early Birds,
it is already Friday
GOOD NIGHT EVERYONE
SLEEP TIGHT
Night, all.
Night, all. I gave up on the shivering snowman and put on an eagle picture.
Good evening...
I couldn't get onto the blog through beakspeak.com or through direct links I made this year, but the old reliable that I made to the blog last year came right through.
I see that Santa Cruz had nearly a full day of the male, K-10, rebuilding the nest ... guess he read the weather report suggesting that we are in for 5-6 days of rain here, and he's trying to get some building in ahead of the storms.
Pete's Pond is mostly a new bloom of yellow flowers over the land and swallows hunting flying insects. There was a shot of a small heron (Green Heron, I think) frozen in place peering into the shallows for a looooonnng time.
The Panda cam in SD is on the ante room, which is lined with bamboo now, but both mother and daughter are in the den ... ZZ did struggle out to the camera view briefly then crawled back.
Jim
GOOD NIGHT, EVERYONE/GOOD MORNING TO SUZANNE AND THE EARLY BIRDERS....
Is it Friday already?? You'll probably want to work Saturday and Sunday just to keep the momentum that you've built up going. [;=)}
Jim
Good cold Friday morning, world! Bitter out, 14° at my house, 20° here, but again, no wind, so that's a big help.
We made it to Friday. Four day weeks always seem longer than 5-day weeks. Wonder why? Anyway, all have a great eagle/panda day. Eyes to the sky, see the raptors fly!
Oh, Jim, saw 2 deer this morning, but far enough off the road didn't have to beep or flash my lights at them. Nice to know they're still out there somewhere! Besides at Megan's house, that is.
GOOD MORNING, SUZ...
I didn't realize it was this late, but now that I do, I decided to say good TGIF morning to my friend.
I guess we are going to get some healthy rain in So Cal for a few days ... predicted to be the heaviest since Jan. 2005 ...
Great for most of us, but potentially another disaster in the areas of the recent fires.
I just looked outside, and it hasn't started yet.
Jim
Bad news, the FWS sites are down, so that means unless it comes up before our eagles drop by, we won't get to see them this morning! That's a bummer on a Friday morning! It's not local, it's the entire FWS. Error message is their servers may be down.
And the SD cam is out in the hallway, which is covered in a bamboo carpet, but no pandas in sight. Sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Good morning, Jim. Glad you're up, well, at least I have someone to talk to, but you need to get some sleep!
I heard about the rains, our weather / news is saying that since the fires burned the trees, they're now worried about mud slides! Scary place to live if you ask me. RU going to be alright where you are?
Yes, Suz, I had to come to the blog directly using a bookmark I set up last year. Nothing else would load, but I received no messages at all.
Wonder what they might be up to ... sometimes they shut down networks for routine maintenance, and if that's what it is, it should be up again by morning.
Jim
Yeah, I also have 2 URLs, one for blogger, one for the cam. I hope that's all it is, but the gov't usually tries to do that on weekends when there is less traffic, or come to think of it, at night. Guess this is still night for normal folks! I tried our cam, then when it wouldn't load, I tried the fws.gov main page. That will give you a Network Error. Bummer.
We should be alright in this particular area, since we weren't affected by the fires, but a great many areas to the north, east and south of here are in danger of mud and debris slides, if not flash floods.
These storms will be moving east and probably picking up more steam, so all parts east of here could be affected next week.
Jim
Unreal, but glad you're going to be alright. Don't know if we're supposed to get rain next week or not. Do remember it's supposed to warm up a lot. Think by next Thursday, it's supposed to be 57 in our area. Do you believe that? Unreal! 57 in Januray. That's a tad warm for this time of year here!
I will be very grateful if the drought is broken and doubly grateful if we do not suffer a lot of slide damage.
We did have some lighter rains earlier, which probably helped a little with growing ground cover.
Jim
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